Finally time!
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Beautiful story and animation. Lin-Manuel Miranda’s music never disappoints. 
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Oh, my, yes! Definitely agree with this.
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Hope this answer isn’t too late!
I was sure the ending would be sad, first time through. There was a bit of sensationalism at a critical point to create drama. The difficulty resolved satisfactorily.
But it’s not sad. And it’s mostly factual.
“We don’t talk about [Encanto], no no.”
I agree, loved everything about it! I don’t get why it tanked so badly with ticket sales. Do you suppose they’ll do a revamp of Enchantment to include references to Encanto? The names mean the same, the message is the same (the magic/miracle is you), I think it’d be awesome to see some sort of tie-in.
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We finally watched it and all loved it. The music is amazing!
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I think ticket sales may have been related to knowing it would go to D+ so quickly, and so many people still being scared of going to movies. I also don’t know that they did a ton of promotion. I have heard many people not even know it was a thing. When we saw some things in Box Lunch in late October it was the first we’d heard of it ourselves.
I have been thinking about this since you first asked. I can’t help but wonder if it is just a reflection of our culture which is just so mushy on good and evil anymore. The press often blames victims or sympathizes with villains. Meanwhile we fall all over ourselves to “understand ourselves better” or live our truth, etc.
We’ve watched the movie fully through again and I foresee it playing again this afternoon. It is so pretty and we see new things each time we watch it.
Donkeys playing violins on the ship?
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We just watched it last night on Disney+, and among the first comments were whether it would somehow become a ride a WDW. An enchanted house does seem like a good fit for a new ride!
Loved the music and the animation is spectacular.
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I just had this same discussion with another dad today and we settled on the fact that we just have no idea what it’s about.
You hear the little mermaid or toy story and the plot or concept is pretty self apparent, this all we have both seen are sizzlers of the characters dancing and that Lin Miranda Manuel is involved.
I want to say the marketing was just weak? I’m really not sure. Either way this sound like we will be watching it this week.
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DW and I were discussing this tonight. Someone could probably write a dissertation on this topic. You make some good points as to the reasons why.
While we loved this movie (especially the music) and the plot was unique, it would be nice if new supervillians (the likes of Jaffar, the Evil Queen or Maleficent) were introduced in some of the new movies.
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The story is hard to express succinctly, which is a flaw for marketing purposes but for storytelling it isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Here’s my best attempt:
It’s about a Colombian family that lives in a magical house and each of them has a magical ability except Mirabel. Mirabel must grapple with her lack of magical ability while saving the house and her family from losing their magic forever.
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I thought it was cute. I didn’t miss not having a villain. There’s enough conflict and tension without one. I think it was colorful and fun and upbeat enough for little kids to like it and the life lesson was solid enough for the adults to hear.
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I think it was a broader question PP asked. Like Frozen 2 didn’t really have a villain. And even Frozen 1 wasn’t super focused on a villain.
And yes. A happy movie was 
what we needed right now.
I can so relate to Luisa. Made a shirt on zazzle yesterday. Need to decide if I want it enough.
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Moana too. In Moana, the villain wasn’t really a villain, but instead was a part of nature that only became “bad” temporarily after being hurt by humans.
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Villains are conflict personified. A Protagonist vs. Antagonist story is definitely satisfying. I like my villains to have a lot of depth. The MCU is good at this, as was HP. I’m not a fan of writing that depicts female villians being evil in order to gain beauty or youth, though. The stereotype is seriously played out.
Encanto, Frozen, Frozen II, and Moana are all in the realm of person vs. fate or person vs.nature conflict stories for me (one could certainly argue otherwise). These are favorite conflict formats of mine, for sure. I think it’s easier for me to conceptualize a person vs. person story because people are tangible whereas fate, for instance, is entirely not. I think my brain has an easier time of reconciling emotions when I can assign blame to something tangible. However, in a person vs. fate or person vs. nature story, the idea that the conflict is difficult/impossible to see or touch or affect is so exciting to me. There’s a lot of depth, confusion, fear, and mystery to explore there. I think that’s why Greek tragedies have stood the test of time. Throwing in a mythical creature here and there definitely helped too.
As a side note, DS and I were chatting this morning and we agreed that a ride based on when Antonio goes through his door would be a lovely addition to AK and that maybe Dinoland USA should actually be rethemed to South America. Casita could be great theming for a ride, play area, or restaurant too.
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Which - especially with films like Maleficent and Cruella being made - is almost always the case. Most all villains aren’t born that way but turned that way by their circumstances.
We absolutely loved it!
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Great ideas, but how about a new South America land instead of a re-theming? Disney does too much of this giving us something new through a re-theming which doesn’t do much to solve the total attraction capacity problem.
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I want South America and zootopia…
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