Pre book LL’s starting July 24

[Jeff_AZ]

@joelbruick

and not even in a good way.

Damn, you got me excited for a second there.

[Jeff_AZ]

Linking this poll here:

The Genie Thread! All WDW Info Here - NEW LL POST COMING

Should I start a brand new thread or repurpose this one? poll (Always include “other,” even if you can’t think of a possible response outside the binary! )

[Nicky_S]

Wow, a major game changer in that you can always hold 3 LLs.

Pre-book 1, 2, 3
Use 1, book 4
Use 2, book 5

Once you’ve one, you can book another. It doesn’t matter what order they’re in either.

I think they’re clearly thinking there will be much more availability because far fewer people will use it.

[heathernoel]

@ThorKat

I thought this was what everyone wanted?

Not me. I was always screwed by the fact that people could make their selections for the entire length of stay. I could never het FOP (not a problem anymore) or SDD because I had short trips.

@katielouhou

I’m not mad about not having to get up at 7 am to start booking though.

I do agree with this. It has been getting more tiresome recently.

@DWJoe

with shorter windows

Where was this?

@lxlindsay

I do absolutely hate that you can still only use it once per attraction.

I was thinking the same thing.

@Jeff_AZ

I still wish you could only book one in advance, but at least you only have to use one before replenishing, vs. FP+ where you had to use all three.

I completely agree with you here. And tou don’t have to do a tier hokey pokey.

@jtaulbee

As someone who only ever takes shorter trips, this is such a disadvantage.

All the popular LLs will be gone or later on the day

AND

I won’t be able to more until I’ve used my first.

This was why I never liked FP+ I think your (our) strategy will have to be booking a Tier 2 earlier in the day in order to open up the next booking. That, at least, is better than FP+ where you had to use all three. And then maybe we can modify the Tier 1 to earlier in the day.

[poohfanclub]

Not to get philosophical here , but here is the problem as I see it:
Disney is slow to react. People (especially liners) are quick to adapt. When Genie was introduced, I thought OMG!!! People were unhappy with the change and voiced their complaints. But you guys quickly figured it out. We all adapted, and I for one love Genie (even though it is expensive) compared to FP+. Two years later, Disney gets around to finally doing something about the initial complaints, but we’re all past it! We’ve adapted! Now we have to figure out something new. I am so happy to be part of this forum. Thank you to all who go out of their way to get us through stuff like this!

[mikejs78]

@Jeff_AZ

(I think we’ll have to wait and see – Genie+ did not have this situation.)

This is key I think. If you think about it, you’re still effectively only allowed to book one headliner, just like you were with Genie+. You can also book two more right out of the gate - so, for example, you can get HM and Pirates alongside JC. Then once you use HM, grab BTM. In DHS, you could get Slinky, ToT, and RnRC - then once you use your first one, get MFSR or MMRR… This will work people.

[davej]

@MMCC32470

I think Genie+ sales will tank on this…

If this really happens, then more Tier 1s will be available same day for those who purchase.

[Nicky_S]

@joelbruick

I don’t really have an opinion on the changes, since I probably will barely use it for myself. I just want to state publicly for the record that most of the people in this thread deserve to be chained up in the utilidor dungeon, and not even in a good way.

Explain please!

If you truly don’t have an opinion, why do we need to be chained up?

[darkmite2]

I wish more people were familiar with how old MaxPass at DLR worked. It’s a similar system with how you get your passes once inside the park

[joelbruick]

@Nicky_S

why do we need to be chained up?

Prior offenses

[ThorKat]

Hmm interesting

List of Experiences Losing Skip-the-Line Status with New Lightning Lane Multi...

[drvillarejos]

@joelbruick

in the utilidor dungeon

Only if lunch is provided.

@mikejs78

You can also book two more right out of the gate

But not the ones in your example…

[ThorKat]

@darkmite2

MaxPass

It was always after you tapped into the park. It never had pre-booking.

When it first started it was just a digital way to book FP so you didn’t have to visit the kiosk.

[mikejs78]

@drvillarejos

But not the ones in your example…

Sorry, I got Rock n Roller coaster wrong. HM and Pirates are definitely Tier 2, as is ToT. So ToT and Toy Story Mania then.

[QwertySC]

@darkmite2

more people were familiar with how old MaxPass at DLR worked. It’s the same system

Wait. What?
I only used it once in 2018 and we just purchased it in the way in and booked one then. Not three a week in advance. Was it before or after 2018?

[davej]

@QwertySC

I love 7AM - if you’re rope dropping you’re up by then anyway.

Probably correct for many guests, but my crew wakes up, brushes teeth and rolls into the car when we RD (we eat bars in the car on the way to the park). We can wake up at 8:00 am and be at a park for 9:00 am RD.

[darkmite2]

@ThorKat

It was always after you tapped into the park. It never had pre-booking.

That’s correct! Hopefully, people can use the old TP article I posted earlier about MP earlier in this thread to help them clarify how this new system has similarities. I went back & edited my statement so it would be clearer as to what I was trying to say.

IMHO - this new system takes the best of MaxPass and combines it with the best of FPP.

I was a proponent of a system like this this back when we weren’t sure how G+ was going to work

[davej]

@mikejs78

Wait, really? That’s a game changer.

Re-rides on Tier 1s would further disadvantage non-rope droppers (but be great for rope droppers).

[darkmite2]

@QwertySC

I only used it once in 2018 and we just purchased it in the way in and booked one then. Not three a week in advance.

I never meant for that to be interpreted that MaxPass was a prebook system. I was talking about how you can get the 4th, 5th & etc… along with it being a paid system.

I’ll try to be more clear going forward! My bad!!

I’ve gone back & edited my statement for clarity

[khawkins71]

Would be more attractive to me if you could review what’s available prior to purchase. I wonder if that’s a thing, or if it’s a closed box until purchase… and when you open the box, sorry FEA and Remy are sold out! You get Soarin at 8:55PM!