Bob Chapek on CNBC - WDW to remain at 25% capacity

He as on CNBC yesterday to discuss the Entertainment Division reorganizations but he went into Parks operations as well.

I tried to find the full interview on CNBC but it is behind a paywall, the CNBC info is primarily about the reorganization

https://blogmickey.com/2020/10/disney-ceo-bob-chapek-says-theme-parks-remain-capped-at-25-capacity/

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I just don’t buy it.

Something has definitely shifted. Everyone visiting now is reporting longer lines at most times than before.

If this is 25% then they need to adjust their staffing because there are lots of times it doesn’t look like that’s the case.

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hmmmmm… it seems like a lot more than 25%… are they using that elusive ‘new’ math?

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My only guess is that with the restrictions on rides and shows (most shows being closed) that there are much fewer places for people to go. If it was 25% capacity with the park working at full operations, then it would feel a lot different. For example, more people would be going to Fantasmic, Indiana Jones or Beauty and the Beast, rather than bunching up in the lines at attractions in HS.

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This is what’s so high-larious about Very Serious People making sonorous noises about park capacity or Crowd Levels™. Disney doesn’t publish what the parks’ capacities are. Since they also never release attendance figures, one can’t even back those numbers out from the various phased closure levels when they happen. I don’t think there’s ever been a serious photogrammetric study of aerial photos of the parks during various times to estimate either attendance or crowd capacity.

This is little more than Kremlinology. There are so many variables, especially now, that govern functional occupancy and wait times that I think any statement about it comes down to delusion or dishonesty.

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Yes, thank you for that reminder!

This. Plus don’t forget about all those extra empty spaces on rafts and cars- normally every seat is filled. Every bit adds up when it comes to absorbing the crowd. I’d also be curious how much under 25% were crowds in July and August.

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Just re-posting this to try to get clarity from @Wahoohokie

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We went in October last year…low crowds, but long lines because they bring in less workers and don’t open all the cues…only had 2 elevators open for TOT

I am going to text my friend right now and see what what she has to say since Chapek says they haven’t increased capacity. I’ll let you know!

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I’m waiting to hear this :wink:

not too fast you dang forum gods!

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Just happened to come across this, some pondering over crowd levels at MK on this video:

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Thanks. Good info, regardless of where the capacity limit is, they need to open things up, bring more CM’s back, and of course some kind of ride reservation system!

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I kinda feel like they’re at a tipping point where they have to either open more things and bring more staff back, or stop refilling parkpass availability.
That video looked like a nightmare. All the rides are lines out the wazoo, and there’s not enough shops and food. People are congregating waiting for mobile orders, it’s a cluster f.

I wouldn’t mind the limited shopping and dining if ride waits were low, and I wouldn’t mind longer ride waits of there was something else to do while waiting. Like shopping or dining, or shows.
But it can’t continue like this, imo.

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You’re exactly right!

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We just got back on Saturday from a week’s stay and while it felt a lot less crowded than pre-Covid, it was pretty tight for social distancing. It was easy to find more secluded areas, but there was always a pretty good flow of people. Both DH and I agreed that they need to open up more eateries and shops, the demand for both of those is very real and I just don’t understand how having them closed is saving money. It would also open up more places for people to go and for walkways to be less crowded (bottlenecks along walkways were the worst IMO).

For line waits, all wait times we saw were very inflated, I’d say we waited a third of the posted time for everything, maybe half the time for 7DMT. We did not do HS for what it’s worth.

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So I just got a crowd update and on the tp blog post explaining the changes, @SteveBloom mentions that the 25% number Chapek is throwing out there is 25% of Maximum Capacity . Think 25% of Christmas Day crowds, not 25% of typical crowds.
Which is some serious bs on Chapeks part. People need to feel that they can trust Disneys commitment to safety, not that they’ve been lied to.

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My friend got back to me and said the same. 25% of Christmas Day/max capacity. That is definitely not the same as 25% of normal capacity.

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I never believed the 25% meant 25% of normal (average?) capacity, because that would be a floating number. To me, it always seemed like it most likely meant 25% of maximum capacity.

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But, you’re kind of a “numbers/data” kind of guy.
The average guest is thinking 25% of what they typically experience.
(That’s not a criticism, by the way.)

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