It is so true - this is one reason AKL value rooms, GF standard and BW standard are high on the dedicated rentals list - they are fewer points for the original owner but they can charge almost as much.
Extended families get multiple rooms. So there would be an issue with this. I think sheer frequency of changes would be a give away.
It is the commercial renters who make me want to consider walking. I want a BCV NYE reservation - one of the most coveted. I don’t trust that they won"t block me out, so it makes me want to walk. I’ll probably end up doing something in between - I have a full week that I could make work. So I will book a room earlier in the week, and if I can modify that to NYE, I will, if not, then I still have a room.
I’m not saying the initial reservation has to be in the DVC owners name. But if it’s for family, put the reservation in their name to begin with. That should solve the problem with booking rooms for friends and family at the 11 - 8 month mark. Or am I missing something?
I may be paying a lot of attention to DVC resale now. Especially since I decided the new Poly isn’t awful. Although I wouldn’t mind AKL points. But maybe I should at least stay there first, lol.
These are all things I think they could work around. Like setting up MDE. Just do it. Don’t know exactly who is coming? As long as the lead guest is there they can check the room in and “add” an additional lead guest?
Maybe they can set up where you add everyone to the reservation and as long as one checks in, if the lead can’t go for whatever reason, the rest of the party can still use the room. But they would have to be added in that 11-8 month time frame.
Unfortunately if you can’t go then you cancel it. If you want to offer your points to someone else- fine. No problem. But just not the reservation.
So while it prevents that particular type of situation the points can still be used by another- just at a resort that has availability.
I don’t think it’s going to be effective without a rules change. But we will see.
But it’s the way these commercial renters are able to do so much damage to the availability.
The points are still usable. I don’t believe you can change the names on the reservations for non DVC reservations. Maybe you can call and do that but I didn’t think so
As someone suggest some sort of limit to the amount of times you can do this. That would be appropriate in these situations.
But I’m not saying- to bad you lose your points. And points are what your DVC contract is- not the actual reservations.
Again, there can be accomodations for this.
Anyway, it’s not like Disney is listening to us. This is all just ideas thrown around amongst friends.
But if you have these rules then DVC will be limited in how flexible they can be.
And yes, you might well lose your points. If you’d missed your banking window, or the points were already banked, then you lose them unless you can rebook.
Seriously. In that scenario I’d be looking for someone to gift that stay to.
If we lose that flexibility then DVC becomes like any other timeshare. And that would be a real shame.
If I had to cancel a reservation for some reason, I would rather be able to let someone else go in my place than lose the points altogether.
It’s definitely not unique and while resale does retain some value there is definitely some inflexibility with the restrictions placed on those contracts.
I had hoped for a pleasant discussions on how other owners think in regards to how DVC might reduce commercial renting-
True. But it’s only in specific instances. And I’m sure there is a way to still offer flexibility when needed but not have an open loop hole that can be exploited.
Not particularly. Losing points would suck. But a very specific reservation isn’t the points, it’s a room in a particular hotel. And there should be a distinction made.
Group discussions is how change starts. So it’s making me uneasy that I’m making suggestions that would limit the problem- because it looks like Disney WILL be doing something and being thrown a big no, lol. It’s construtive to point out the inadvertent consequences to a DVC owner. But that’s where discussion and additional implementations happen.
This one is going off the rails though. I really was just trying to explain what I meant. And how it solves 1 problem. I wonder how often all of these other instances happen and if offering a DVC owner x amount of transfers based on the amount of points they hold wouldn’t solve that problem.
But anywho.
Guess we will all see what they do.
According to the article in the OP, absolutely. They made it clear they wanted to do what is fair while addressing the issues. They will in no way want to jeopardize the appeal of DVC to potential new members.
Exactly- personally I am hoping for a guest certificate/form like many others “vacation clubs” do…personally it’s the only option I am familiar with and it works out ok for us with our other units but I don’t rent “commercially.”
So as an owner - any ideas what may come? How they might work it differently?
Especially since I decided the new Poly isn’t awful. Although I wouldn’t mind AKL points. But maybe I should at least stay there first, lol.
grandkids, you can’t go to Disney because grandad’s friend you don’t know died”.