Wait times just skyrocketed in my touring plans

It used to be that good, not sure if it’s shortened now?

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I won’t know the difference, having never seen it at all.

I viewed a video on youtube and I think it’s a teeny bit shorter and seems only to be missing the tumble monkeys and the birds in flight (though they dance on the ground). I would say it is a very good show and not to be missed, and that if you hadn’t see in it before it wouldn’t feel in any way truncated or missing something. They have done a good job at reworking it to be safe for now.

I do hope the original returns eventually though.

Edited: it’s a must-do for me always.

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It’s the best show in WDW of this type. I really loved the Aladdin in DCA the most though. Haven’t seen the Frozen replacement because I did what my daughter wanted when we went for Oogie Boogie Bash in 2019.

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The waitimes have to go up if the same number of attractions/restaurants are open when the capacity increases. Hopefully they will increase capacity for restaurants, open up more shows and other entertainment, and extend hours.

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On the Disney Dish episode from Sunday, Len talked about how Disney has already increased capacity and it seemed to happen last week. I think these adjustments in the TP’s are a result of them adjusting the algo - rhythm (I know that’s not how you spell it!). I noticed when we were there last week that the Lines app was off quite a bit and I think this is why. They were calibrated to what the capacity was and not what it shifted to mid-week last week. I do hope they open up more shows and things to compensate. And perhaps they are also reducing distancing on rides?

I think RD is super important right now. We RD’d Epcot on Saturday and were in the park right at 10:00 for an 11:00 open. We walked onto the boat at FEA and then rode TT with about a 20-25 minute wait. Done with both by 11:00.

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The Frozen show at DCA is good but not as good as Aladdin.

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That Aladdin show was wonderful. They did such a great job with it. I made it a point to see it every time I was in DCA. I’ve never bothered with the Frozen show.

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I think it’s worth seeing, but I don’t see it every time. I am ready to move on from Frozen, also. Is that sacrilege? I would love to see a brand new show go in the Hyperion!

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Before anyone panics, the average waits in the last few days have still been stable in that 30-35 minute range where they’ve been consistently since mid-April. Obviously some rides and parks will have higher waits at some times, but there hasn’t been a systematic burgeoning of wait times. A 170-minute wait for FOP is unheard of in COVID times. I would report the issue and refresh again tomorrow.

For me personally, I’m just going to roll with it. I’m arriving in a few days and we already have our days planned to be super chill. Not much I can do to change it.

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P.S. Here are a couple of charts for context - the average daily wait at FOP over the last two months, then the average wait for today by time of day (with the black line being the historical trend). A 90-minute wait is about the highest it gets.

ETA: This data is all captured from the app by Thrill Data. There is no adjustment for actual vs. reported wait times like TP does.

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So most of my May 30-June 7 TP wait times just went up a bit but HS on June 1 skyrocketed. Like 100 minute total waits to 254 minutes. Does this sound right @len?

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Yes summon the master!

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Yeah, DHS is my worst so far too, EPC, AK and MK seem pretty similar. It says I can do FOP in 25 min if I rope drop. And we have overlapping dates. I’m May 29-Jun9

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Too late? :crazy_face:

I’m not sure I’d want to see it twice in one trip. But if you’re a huge Lion King fan, maybe?

I’m still scared to look at my TPs. Maybe tonight with a (large) glass of wine. But I’m mentally gearing up for a mental shift. Last year we did a “go to Disney and do ALL the park things!” week. Maybe this becomes a “go to Orlando and visit the parks for a few of our favorite things” trip.

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Yup…head in the sand, not looking! No RD for us just pool time, water parks and 2-4pm arrivals in parks🤪 then pool time after parks; might kill me but this is all about making up for this year and a half to my kid! She has since said maybe one RD so fingers crossed!!

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My kids are totally sold on RD after our trip January 2020. So we’re doing 10 days of RD mornings and head for the hotel by 3pm or so. (Except Epcot cuz late RD.)

One DS11 literally said “Oh, I love rope drop!”

ETA: The promise of pool time almost every day helped too.

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Nice! I’m not even arguing…maybe after day 1 she will change her tune! Although she’s been a night owl since she was little so maybe not

My mom and I got an argument once because I wasn’t ready to rope drop Universal Studios when I was a teen. But I got lucky. My kids push thru but they’d rather sleep in. I plan sleep in days though.

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Yeah, I get that. We are totally night owls. Evening extra magic hours were our sweet spot. Our January 2020 trip was split days of morning EMH RDs and evening EMHs with midday breaks. We even did evening EMHs on trips where they were itty-bitties.

This TP is totally different so we’ll see how it goes, but it avoids hottest hours in the parks and reduces travel time so we’ll see!