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Can you explain this for me? Thanks
Can you e
Can you explain this for me? Thanks
If you are park hopping, Genie knows you canât make a LL reservation in the second park (ie, any park you donât have a park reservation for) until 2pm. So even if Genie is distributing LL return times for, say 9am to non-hoppers, it will automatically issue you a 2-3pm LL (or later if enough hoppers have claimed those before you) if itâs in a park you plan to hop to.
(If the attraction is already distributing times after 2pm to non-hopping guests, thereâs no difference for hoppers.)
Thanks. I thought someone also commented about 1pm trick.
Sharing here. The question was when will G+ and ILL be available to include when making a Touring Plan.
Yeah but Tomâs article seems to suggest that 3 and 2 should be switched.
Alternatively, try to get another LL if itâs been 2 hours since you got or used your last one.
Theyâre interchangeable but I put 2 first because itâs the simpler rule. Tap in, get a LL. For the 2-hour rule, there are âexceptions, quid pro quos âŚâ
We watched a couple of YouTubers (forget their namesâŚone was JoJo something) that did a challenge. One of them used G+, and the other did not. They both rope-dropped together and spend the morning to see who could get more done. The one who did NOT use G+ was, admittedly, pushing his pace, but was very smart about his decisions as to what to ride, whereas the other guy was led somewhat by what G+ was available.
After a few hours, they linked back up to see who did more. The one with G+ did 5 rides, and the one without did 7. However, the one with G+ was more relaxed, and actually stopped to watch a calvacade, etc.
The âtestâ was really to see if G+ was worth it if you wanted to use it for the morning, and then leave in the afternoon. The consensus was no, it isnâtâŚbut if you were planning to stay all day, the results could be different.
One thing that was interesting was that while the posted wait times were inflated somewhat, the one without G+ would get in the standby line for a ride, and the G+ guy would get a LLâŚbut when you add the time he had to âwaitâ for his window to the full waiting time, the total advantage wasnât as good as it seemed it should have been. (They did say that obviously if parks were significantly more crowded, that could be quite different.)
They were also noting which rides had a âfullâ LLâŚmeaning, the next available slot for a given ride when they got in standby was quite far enough out to presume that they had given out full LL availability for that ride during the standby waiting time period.
The standby guy noted that the waits in standby were DEFINITELY slower when the LL was fully used (he was comparing to days without LL).
There were a few tips thrown in the videos worth noting, in either case.
Using single rider line on Smugglerâs Run made the ride almost a walk-on compared to a 60 minute wait. So if you donât mind being split up, it is DEFINITELY a good way to save time.
Having ETPE was definitely an advantage over those who didnât. They made it work without, but it was potentially possibly to knock out 2-3 rides before the rest of the park guests were let in.
You can actually tap into your LL 5 minutes BEFORE the time listed. So if you get a LL for, say, 11:00, it is worth tapping in at 10:55 so that you can start to book your next LL even sooner.
Oh, one more observation they madeâŚat least for MMRR, they counted how many people were let in from the LL versus standby at the merge point, it was overwhelmingly from the LL. He observed only 8 people from standby being let in, with the rest LL, when entering pre-show the first time. And when it was his turn, only 5 people were let in from Standby versus the rest from LL. So, this definitely indicates for the paid ILL case, at least, they are sending a great deal many more slots to LL than Standby, which means Standby is significantly slowed down. They didnât do a similar comparison at other non-ILL rides, however.
Looks like it dropped down today?
I shouldâve checked ROTR prices but theyâve sold out.
Iâm sure somebody is monitoring these.
I wonder if it depends on how many are in the LL compared to the Stand by? When I was in my Remy BG line I saw the LL line but they were being held back. I donât know when they were merged in? It obviously happened sometime before and after I saw them. I do know that the stand by line was moving very slowly compared to how it moved when I was in it for my squeak peek. The S. Peek line constantly moved, it was GREAT. The speed at which it moved caused me to wonder why they needed a virtual line for the ride at all.
One thing I was thinking about for MK in particular where the G+ times arenât too far in the future but usually too far to be immediate. Using G+, get a reservation for a ride, and if G+ arrival time is more than 5 minutes in the future when arrive at the ride, get in the standby line then use G+ reservation when get off the ride. But, then I like re-rides and dislike walking.
I think in general, thatâs a good strategy even if you are getting in line for a DIFFERENT ride. In this way, you are in line âtwiceâ. Once in Standby for ride X, and simultaneously âin lineâ for Ride Y due to the G+LL.
MK seems to be the park where using the LL is most effective and easy to do. The other parks, with so many fewer rides, makes it trickier to use a LL as efficiently.
In general, FP-type systems donât provide much benefit to those who donât mind waiting in lines (well, obviously, but keep reading) compared to those who donât mind waiting but prefer to not be physically in a line. Those whoâd rather be shopping, watching a cavalcade, taking pictures of a castle.
Believe it or not, some people would rather hustle and get in line than have to kill time waiting around for their reservation time to get up. It makes them feel more productive. (I think @ryan1 maybe one of these people.)
Touring Plans has said they are planning to do systematic counts of this, so hopefully weâll see the results soon.
If you find someone, link it! I did an extensive search last week and couldnât find it on any of the usual blogs or forums.
Iâm going to assume the max price of $15 will be used daily unless and until they increase the cap.
I watched them too and it was very helpful! The Youtubers are JoJoâs World & Kyle Pallo, the seem to video alot together.
Ah, yes. Thatâs them. Thanks.
It seems a very pointless comparison designed to create a false narrative and a click bait headline!?
firstly tested for â2 to 3 hoursââŚ
secondly the guy didnât use genie+ as intended at all.
the guy with Genie + DID ride SDD the guy without didnt⌠thats a major deviation.
as is staying to watch a cavalcade.
he also chose to stand around and kill time while waiting for his next ll instead of riding something else while waiting.
he then chose not to go on RnR which could have done etc etcâŚ
but its still a good watch as he is good at explaining and showing the app. just the conclusion seems odd.
It wasnât a challenge about getting the same things done, it was a challenge to see if getting G+ just for the morning makes sense, and the metric they were using was how many rides you could get through.
Then, how they touredâŚone without G+ and one withâŚgave great insight into how G+ impacts the day. The guy with G+ was, I felt, being realistic with how he allowed G+ to guide his day. He chose to ride MMRR first thing using Standby, for example, while waiting for his first G+. And rather than hop into a Standby line, he chose to watch a calvacade because he only had a small wait for his next G+LL time. He could have jumped in standby, but it would have delayed when he used his G+LL, and therefore how soon he could have booked another oneâŚas it was, he was having trouble finding times for rides that were coming up soon.
So, for me, it wasnât a pointless comparisonâŚit was one of the most useful comparisons Iâve seen done so far. It did show that one advantage G+ offers, for those who want it, is an opportunity for a bit more relaxed touring style. Yes, you donât necessarily get through as many rides (at least, not early in the dayâŚbut, as they stated, if you were staying all day, it probably would then become advantageous), but it allowed him to be a bit more relaxed with his time. Thatâs definitely worth something.
The other guy (Kyle) got through more with careful planning and decision making, but he was all go-go-go about it, and never had a chance to actually relax. For some, that might be okay, for others not so much.
NowâŚIâd love them to do this again with an all-day challenge instead, though. The one part that seemed a bit unrealistic was someone choosing to buy G+ for just the morning hours.
their headline was " Genie+ & Individual Lightning Lane IS NOT WORTH IT In The Morning At Hollywood Studios"
and their results did not show that!
the guy with G+ âlostâ by two rides⌠but chose not to go one one ride he had ll for and chose not to go on rides but instead stand around and chat.
IF he had gone on rides instead of chatting to people he met and recording editorial segments he WOULD have ridden the same AND watched a cavalcade.
The result really is G+ isnt worth it if you compare it only on number of rides(not quality) and if you plan on standing around chatting and dont bother using your ll for RnRC. and base it on an arbitrary timescale.
its a nonsense conclusion designed to get clicks.
the actual video itself is good information and well made and shows some interesting comparisons.
And that is ultimately why it wasnât a pointless video at all. I got to see it all in action, side by side. You donât have to agree with their individual decisions. Yes, the title was click-baityâŚbut thatâs the name of the game in YouTube land. But I found watching both videos together INCREDIBLY informative and useful.
This part Iâm not sure is necessarily true. (They did hash over that at the end of the JoJo video.) Because, as I mentioned, if he decided to hop into a standby line instead of waiting for his next LL time, he would have then delayed when he could get his NEXT G+LL. This causes a waterfall effect of delays. So, yes, he would have gotten in another standby line, but then delayed access to the LL, which would have delayed his time for another LL until further out, which would then require him to use more standby.
The result was really showing us that paying for G+, in terms of ride access in the morning, really didnât offer an advantage. Even if they did the same number of ridesâŚthat just means he was paying extra to get the same amount doneâŚwhich again makes it not necessarily seem worth it.
You have a point, though, about ride CHOICE involved. G+ allowed JoJo to get on SDD. If thatâs important to you, that definitely plays a role. For me, it wouldnât.