Also: it takes FOREVER many times. I think I saw someone still waiting on Day 44 for Disney to say one way or the other.
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So, are you saying that unlike the Riviera, if we bought points at the new GFV, if we would resell in the future to a private buyer, they would not be limited to using the points at GFV? Are those units newly constructed, or are they in a renovated building?
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Can anyone tell me at this particular point in time, what DVC availability looks like for a 1 BR Villa at both GFV and the Riviera @ 7 months and 11 months? (If you can post a link, I will be glad to look it up myself. I just wasnât sure I could access it.)
Not sure about the link but I grabbed a few screen shots. This is for your 7 month-ish 1 bdrm (darker blue means itâs available).
Grand Floridian 1 bdrm Standard View
Grand Floridian 1 bdrm Lake View
Riviera 1 bdrm Standard View
Riviera 1 bdrm Preferred View
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Yes - this is correct. For the new Poly build, everyone is waiting to see if it will follow Riviera or the new addition at GFV.
Here is a link someone posted in a different forum yesterday. This is a nice resource - helped me understand what I could expet to get at 7 months, when I first bought.
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That is what Iâm saying. They would be restricted to only using them at the original 14 (NOT including Riviera) and could not use them at any other new resorts going forward.
The units were previously hotel rooms and were given a full refurb and converted to these âresort studiosâ
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11 months will be hard at GFV for anything over a studio. It will be just like CC- lots of points in the pool but with GFV there will be limited larger units.
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The tables on this site are the best resource I know of. You can change the resort to whichever you want. Bear in mind most of the data comes from pre-Covid.
https://www.dvchelp.com/page/beach-club-villas-availability-charts
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I donât think I would trust any GFV charts until Pete can track how all those points will impact the larger units?
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One basic question you need to answer is if you will buy direct or resale. I just finished buying 210 pts at Boardwalk resale for $134 per point. Disney wants $230 per point direct for BWV. I saved $20k by buying resale plus I paid cash and didnât need a loan saving even more. Plus, I had no choice on resort. My wife fell in love with Boardwalk on our first visit last December. We paid $750 per night on the hotel side for a three night stay. I knew Boardwalk was my best shot an convincing my wife to buy into DVC.
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Wow, those points go far at BWV
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Iâm not following. Why would the new points affect the larger units in particular?
Do you think people will be adding on specifically to be able to book more than a studio? I would have thought a lot of add-on buyers are new to GFV and will therefore only be able to book either studios or a couple of nights at 11 months.
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I think the amount of points being sold doesnât match the amount of diverse room types so that what PT suggests is a very real possibility.
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Maybe not enough tea yet but I still donât follow. 
How do points match or not match room types?
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DVC sells points based on how many points are needed for each room type. For example, the issue with CC is that the pool of available points is very high because of the Cabins. Unfortunately many people bought those points at CC only wanting studios. It allowed Disney to sell many small point contracts.
GFV was originally sold based on the pool of points for studios, one bedrooms, two bedrooms, and grand villas. They are now adding a lot of âresort studioâ points to that association. Many of the new buyers do not want those resort studios. They are planning on using their new points for dvc deluxe studios, one bedrooms, two bedrooms, and grand villas. Those old availability charts will only be usable if a lot of old owners suddenly want to book resort studios.
GFV points with incentives, length of contract and dues are still a great value but mainly if you really plan on using those points elsewhere.
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I absolutely understand the problem with the deluxe and resort studios, definitely. Thatâs going to be a mighty headache for existing GFV owners and if I was an existing owner I would be worried.
Iâm just not totally convinced about people wanting the bigger villas. If that was a genuine issue, we wouldnât see studios booking up first across all resorts. Demand for studios is still there, because points go further and also because of the number of smaller contracts.
Now at the Poly it will be a different story. I really hope weâll be able to book a 1-bed there at 7 months some time. And although many of the new-to-DVC buyers there will be wanting studios, existing owners will probably enjoy the option of larger villas. Which hopefully means things will balance out.
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There are 70 one bedrooms and 47 two bedrooms at that resort. It will be interesting to watch.
I also think owners want studios with kitchenettes.
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I donât understand⌠why would Disney be charging more ($230/pt) for BWV than for Riviera and/or GFV ($207/pt + incentives)?
A couple of more questions⌠we havenât delved into the buying resale options yet. In looking strictly at buying direct at Riviera or GFV, there is currently a more attractive incentive for Riviera than GFV, but the projected maintenance fees (annual dues) are lower for GFV. Why would that be?
If GFV have more flexibility for selling the contract later, it seems like that would be the smarter option. But if the 11-month availability for the larger units (i.e. one-bedroom) is going to be scarce, Iâm not sure that the advantage is that great.
Are the new studios at GFV not going to have kitchenettes?
Is it possible to by a contract with one of your children on as a joint owner so that when the time comes, they are already an owner?