Possible changes to DVC bookings

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They do.But the bulk of their business is done the old fashioned way.

They also do not buy and sell contracts. They purely act as an intermediary…

Unlike the other major players which are now part of “umbrella” companies who buy contracts, strip them of points into their own memberships, and seek the stripped contracts. And then book reservations to sell as confirmed reservations.

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We are talking about inventory availability, not points.

I think that actual confirmed rentals do have a place but 2,400 active ones is a ton and the clearly speculative ones are the most egregious.

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Right. But how does the inventory decrease as more contracts are sold?

I can see that within a resort, the declared but unsold points allow extra inventory, But obviously resorts are going to sell out.

Sounds like what you want is for them to screw up like with the Cabins at FW. There will always be inventory available there because they’re nowhere near selling the points they’ve declared - making cabins available at 7 months.

However adding new resorts doesn’t change that at all.

One thing I convinced myself of before buying was that if nothing else, I would be happy at my home resort (SSR). Also, it is usually fairly easy to get AKL-K, SSR, and OKW at 7 months (and sometimes later) so if you are happy with any of those resorts, DVC can be a good option even if you’re buying into a cheaper resort.

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I think that as they add more resorts it actually reduces some stress. For example, I am sure some folks are looking at Riviera at 7 months instead of Beach Club, for example. And even high demand resort owners may want to book a different resort at 7 months which opens rooms at those.

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Precisely!

I am not talking about adding new resorts. That is a different dynamic…although can play a role.

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Especially the one booking thousands of 1-night confirmed listings. Crazy.
*cough* dvcshop *cough*

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Okaaaaay.

But you used the argument “as they sell more contracts” availability at 7 months decreases.

I assumed you meant that year by year, as more DVC contracts are sold. Ergo, as they add or expand more DVC resorts it decreases availability at 7 months.

To say it when you actually mean “as a resort sells out” availability at that resort decreases - to: me that is a totally different thing.

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No. I was referring to as they sell more contracts at any given resort. If a resort is only 50% sold versus 75% versus 100% will have a huge impact on availability of that resort at 7 months.

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I hope this brings you good news!

But this is only relevant at like 2 resorts right now.

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I think it is possible that the new resorts with their higher nightly point charts, might push more owners to the more economical resorts, especially BC, BW, CC, BR, and AKL.

I say that as an owner that tries to stretch my points as far as possible. Have I booked GFV, BLT and Poly? Yes, but I will almost always go with the resort that will save me points.

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I’m sharing the following because my experience from Dave’s would be that a dedicated rental is from an owner.

I don’t know how many of you have used David’s to rent your points, we had to rent some points out a year ago. When I spoke w/ David’s (we used them) I was given the choice of creating a dedicated rental or just posting points. We chose the latter to allow the buyer the ability to choose their own dates. next-complicated-things-happened and we got a reservation for a buyer and received a cash deposit, through PayPal, when Dave’s confirmed the reservation. The balance was received when the guests checked into the resort. We also choose to rent points from our home resort of Aulani to be able to receive the greatest point pay out from Dave’s

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Nope. But there are some single nights in the 1brs where as there are zero nights in the studios

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And this is even more true during higher points seasons. I’m only booking VGF in the lowest 3-4 tiers.

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Yes, I have noticed that the lowest point rooms at a given resort are always the first to sell out, as are the lowest point times of year.

Caveat that as I said before, SSR, OKW, and AKL-K seem to have rooms available the longest despite being the cheapest resort, but I think that’s because they are both large and are not close to the parks. So there does seem to be a trade-off that owners make between points and location.

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I think the whole point is Disney is trying to help with this. Disney will get some positive changes. Even if it gets a few owners mad about the changes.
I for one am hoping for a resale flooded market! I’ve been teetering about buying a contract. I think if there is a sell off, prices should go down and I’ll find a good deal and jump on it.
As long as the RoFR monster doesn’t rear it’s ugly head.

They use their points to make requested bookings as well. They confirmed with me that they had an in house poly contract that was capable of booking at 11 months out if I got my request in just before the 11 month mark (assuming they could actually snag the reservation). They did. I eventually changed it to a different resort (no big fee!) but they must not use all their points for confirmed reservations, if any.

I do think that should be a major focus. But they have to follow the right breadcrumb trails and make sure innocent reservations don’t get caught up in the cross fire.

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