Our AP decision will be a tough one to push through my husband.
Right now he is saying that even if he likes it and he would want to go to more parks, he would not want to have to go 3 times in the next year to break even…
He says, 1 day a year for rest of our lives might be a better way to go for us since we live only 75 minute drive away…
Got any AP arguments that could help me there??
Can’t help too much. 75 minutes is just far enough that it could be a day trip, but also far enough to question how often you WOULD make it a day trip.
I live in Michigan, so I’m no help there! 
Agreed…
I wish that the TP plans would say, for each event, for which FPPs could be booked, in your plan, something like, ‘if you obtained an FPP at this time, you could save X minutes of InQueue wait time and use the saved time for eating, shopping, bathroom, resting etc…’ 
You can tell it how many FPP slots you want (over 3 is allowed) in the advanced options and it should then spit out a list of suggestions for which will save you most time. It may only be Optimise that does that - worth a go though!
Thanks and yes it works on ‘Evaluate’ and is partway to my request.
It does add the bold BLUE text on the FPP candidates (Still no idea of how much InQueue wait time could be saved though…):
Although in this case we can assume that there will be ~(16-3) or 12 minutes of InQueue wait time saved…
One thing I suggest is checking, today, around 4:30 what the FP availability is today using the TouringPlans tool. It will give you a loose guide as to what same day FPs you MIGHT be able to obtain.
It should also give a list at the top which is ordered by priority, I.e. how much time it would save to have an FPP for that attraction.
Interesting that just today I checked out how reliable TP FPP availability chart was… sadly, not so good… It showed earlier times for SE than Disney gave us and that EF was still availble and Disney said EF FPP were gone…
Two problems…they only query the availability at certain times (last check was at 3:08 AM). Plus, they only check for single availability.
Silly question but…are you aware Disney only offers a small subset of times each time you check? I (and many others) have often grabbed a time and then repeatedly moved it earlier and earlier through repeated searching. Its honestly worth just refreshing your search over and over if you really want something. Different matter if it says none at all, that is generally true. And if there is only one time returned for anything, grab it quick!
Yes, that area seems to have the order right according to the priority that you say (in my case, 1) Soarin 2) TT) , but not showing the InQueue times that could be saved
Also, I am not seeing the bold BLUE FPP candidate addition in the text of a published plan nor in the printable version nor in the ‘WDW Lines’ phone APP … bummer
EDIT: If anyone in the future follows this topic to this post, … the solution for me is to use only the browser interface, in Safari, on my iPhone, when my PC is not available (like on my visit day)…
Thanks, I have already learned the refresh trick…
I generally keep refreshing the ‘View Details and More Times’ page that shows all times currently available…
And AGAIN, with still 5 days to the finish line … 
‘RD FEA from IG’ strategy is still well ahead with the same times…
BUT, I was just able to get an earlier SE FPP, which fits PERFECTLY into my FPP usage plan. I will now use the first three FPPs, as is, no in park re-arranging needed 
This also resulted in being able to add some longer Pavilion times and better timing at the Pavilions for the ACTS, now including ‘Voices of Liberty’… Even added a note to consider taking Friendship Boats to go from Canada to Germany…
I will still try to get, ‘at the park’, my 4th and 5th FPPs for a 2nd Soarin and a 1st TT, which would shave another ~25 minutes off this amazing low InQueue wait time (For my Plan ‘20th-5c-noDel’):
Imagine if we get the 4th and 5th FPPs, the whole InQueue wait time of about 40 minutes for the WHOLE day… my husband is ECSTATIC NOW 
Day includes three 30+ minute, well separated ‘Eat and Shopping’ periods, all day Tapas at 30 WS Food Festival booths, 2xSoarin, 1FEA, 1TT, 1LWTL, 1MSG, ALL pavilions (20+ minutes at each), Sergio, Voices of Liberty, American Adventure, Seveur Amusant, Impressions of France, 3 Cabs etc…
You’re doing really well fitting this all in!
Just out of interest, and as I know some other bits came up and have been in and out of the plan, are all of these being skipped deliberately?
Rides:
Other:
Not sure about Mariachi Cobre… I will look into what that is…
MSO because I don’t really like spinning…
The Seas out because we are Tampa Aquarium AP holders (we may wander there thou by going in the Nemo exit) …
The others left when we decided to leave out the ‘kid in us’ events…
I also think we may seamlessly fit a Friendship Boat ride to Germany, lots of options later in day with the breaks we have.
I will be continually updating my Plan Notes now, to make sure we consider all these minutia items…
All good then, I just remembered all of China fell off earlier and wanted to make sure!
Mariachi Cobre is the Mexican band, they used to do a Coco-based act but I think are now back to “regular” music. There are a few musical groups around actually, but MC are one of the more prominent ones by all accounts. You may see them whilst in Mexico anyway!
Oh - MSO. May not affect your decision, but there is no spinning sensation. You just get pushed back in your seat a lot!
Thanks, everyone that has helped so far.
I am hoping that this post will be close to the end of this long topic.
The reason for THIS post is that I just feel compelled to tell all the people who have actually followed my journey to this post, what an amazing day my husband and I just enjoyed while working on the TP plan. 
He amazingly agreed to sit with me and help update all the Notes for each Plan event…
With our combined computer skills, we did something that truly blew my mind today.
When I went to Epcot decades ago, I am not even sure that the internet existed 
We started by forcing ourselves to summarize, in the TP plan ‘Plan Summary’, the steps we have taken so far in order to optimize the plan to where it is now. 
BUT, there were very few Notes on each Step of the Plan, so that had to change 
At this point, my husband set up a blank Chrome browser instance and just started making these tabs:
Then the fun began… 
Our plan had 25 steps, so we started at Plan Step 1 and started adding/editing the steps’ notes…
This is the new fun process we took from there and we repeated these STEPS:
, this is where we saw things like massive building attached to Germany with no ride label on it so we simply had to find out why…
Move to next Plan Step # in Tab1 and then Repeat Steps 1-6 above for the new ride/act/pavilion…
By now I am sure you want to see our Plan with all the notes we made, here it is:
https://touringplans.com/plans/print?id=3936765
I KNOW that these notes which we made today in our plan, would not be the notes which YOU would have made in your plan, but that is EXACTLY why this process is so neat. You could be putting your own notes in your plan.
I can’t see how anyone would NOT have fun doing this process.
This is a crazy and wonderful use of the technology which is available to us today.
I CAN say for sure that there is no reason for anyone to wander around Epcot aimlessly anymore…
This does not bode well for Disney, as it may no longer take 4 day trips to Epcot in order to effectively see all of Epcot
After you do this process, you WILL feel like you just spent a day at Epcot but please do not cancel your trip as, in person, the trip memories will be much longer lasting
EDIT: I edited the first post of this Topic with a link to this post so that people who stumble across this topic can jump here to ‘read the last chapter of the book first’
It only works for ‘Optimize’. There may not be ways for the Optimizer to make FPs work in an ‘Evaluate’ scenario, without moving steps around.
@len, could you spare a few more bytes of data storage and double the length of allowable size for the Notes of each Step (preferably before this Wednesday ) 
When we are using the Plan at Epcot, I think that I would like to manually add, to each note, what Arrival Time, InQueue Time and even Walk Time etc that we ACTUALLY had, so that we can truly evaluate how close we were able to stick to the Plan. (LOL, I will even be having a GPS logging APP running, silently in the background, all day for use in my ‘day after’ analysis, how obsessive is that ?)…
Yep - I’ll ask the team to make the change.
