New DAS rules

I’m scanning the website with the new rules…sharing for anyone else who uses DAS…
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/guest-services/disability-access-service/

Based upon my reading of this, only developmental disabilities will now qualify for DAS…is anyone else reading it this way?

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I was hoping they would go to the Universal system. This is very different.

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I was just going to post this story which seems to confirm your take,

From Mickey Blog Disney Announces Change to Disability Access Service

BREAKING: Disney Announces Change to Disability Access Service (DAS) - MickeyBlog.com

Edit to add another article from DisneyTouristBlog.com

Disney Overhauls DAS to Reduce Abuse & Misuse - Disney Tourist Blog

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I’m pretty sure that the website has always indicated developmental disabilities as the primary determination for DAS. But there are some medical disabilities that can qualify as well. It really is a case by case basis depending on the symptoms/severity for each guest. I have a medical condition that affects me differently than others with my same condition. I would not even apply for myself because I haven’t been affected in a way that would prevent me from queuing, but others do have difficulty queuing.

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I first saw this reported by Scott Gustin on X (aka Twitter)

He said

The program’s purpose is also more clearly defined - and Disney is adding a suite of other options for guests who may not qualify for DAS

Disney has a lot of information on the updated website.

Accessibility Services for Guests with Disabilities | Walt Disney World Resort (go.com)

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I wonder if this opens them up for lawsuits. They used to say “without telling me the actual medical condition, tell me why standing in line is difficult”. Now they are going clinical with who can tolerate what?

Can someone tag me if they see a post/or does this new registration process?

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My interpretation is this is to clarify mental / developmental disabilities. That’s what has been causing so many DAS issues. Too many people say they have anxiety or a “general / nonspecific” mental health issue (like - PTSD) that you can’t always “prove” with an interview.

Those with a psychical disability would still be eligible. Not sure if there’s been any changes on how they’re going to handle “proving” it or not. Not allowing DAS to those with physical disabilities would lead them into a lot of liability / ADA lawsuits.

Personally, as a person with a disability, I have no issue with anyone saying I need to submit my paperwork. I have it filed away & could call my doctor’s office for a note. (I might have to nag the doctor, but I’d have it in a day or two)

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(I really need to hit the ‘edit’ button instead of delete!)

The link discusses mobility and neurodivergent disabilities which is only a slice of what is out there for disabilities.

I really like Universal’s system. My specialist had no issue providing me with the required documentation and once approved, it’s valid for a year.

I have an email in with additional questions - will let folks what I get back!

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I’m glad they didn’t. Six Flags uses a similar system, and it’s a huge pain in the… you know what.

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Really? I found Universal’s really easy! What made Six Flags difficult?

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It is that IBCCES system. I’ve had something stuck in there for a while. I talked with them, and my doc, and no one will unstick it. I’ve had this issue for like 5 years, and I’m not even sure what’s wrong.

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From the Mickey Blog article I linked earlier, everything I have read includes this information.

For guests who might not qualify for the new program but need to leave a queue for a period and then get back in line, Disney will implement a “return to queue” process. More details on this will be released at a later date.

My dumb guess is that the ‘return to queue’ might be used to as a tool to reduce DAS abuse. Your party has to wait in line but the person with a disability(and a companion) can leave the line and rejoin later. This also will give guests who have to use the restroom to leave and come back.

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It makes me nervous as someone with a trip coming up right after the changes “officially” go into effect. Because right now we know how it works and what to expect (both the registration process and the system itself). My daughter doesn’t do well with change, so that’s my stress point right now. I am wondering how - if at all - the registration process will be different. It sounds like maybe this 3rd party is just providing training(?) and it’s not actually any kind of verification system, which I personally would be fine with but I know is problematic for others for a variety of reasons. There are also a lot of developmental disabilities that are not autism, the wording on that phrase is odd to me. Losing the two pre-selects isn’t a big deal for us as we never really used them. But that offering didn’t last very long.

ETA: Also gets my gears churning about what Genie+ changes are coming. Maybe some kind of pre-selects?

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So how do we determine between people who actually left and came back vs the people who are cutting into the line?

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We’ll have to wait & see!

Always remember… Disney often publishes things like this to gauge public reactions. Then they adjust. Today is the first announcement with “more to come”. I know this is stressful, but you probably won’t get any more information today…

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Like the 'Ohana noodle incident :crazy_face:

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MDE. To leave the line you have to a CM scans your MDE account and to return you have to have a CM scan to get back in.

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Oh that’s going to fly like a lead balloon in Disneyland. They all still use hard tickets.

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Which makes their disability less valid?

And I believe PTSD would be considered quite a specific diagnosis. Or at least the DSM 5 thinks so.

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Nope! You’ve misunderstood what I said.

I’m saying that, unfortunately, it’s too easy under the current DAS system to claim / lie that you have one of these “non-visible” disabilities.

The new system will require you show your diagnosis so that only those that truly need DAS are receiving it…

I hope that helps you understand / clarify what I said… :smiley:

I’m the son of a Vietnam vet who has PTSD and was permanently injured while serving, so I would never suggest PTSD is not “real”.

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