Is anyone else confused about yesterday's changes to the crowd calendar heat maps?

Our trip is coming up next month, and I’m confused about the heatmaps… yes, I know crowd calendars are useless now, and I know we should just expect wall-to-wall pretty much all the way through March, but can someone explain this?

One of our park days in March is marked a Level 10 day, and the heatmap posted for MK up to 2/23 was very red and dark orange.

On 2/24, the heatmap changed. Same day, same park, still a Level 10, but oranges to greens - no red.

I also saw a Level 10 for a different park, different day, but it’s all yellows and greens!

I scrolled through and I see bizarre heatmaps. Days with red and dark orange labelled “8” and THE SAME DAY, different park, all green and yellow also labelled “8”. This used to be pretty logical - lots of red = 9 & 10, lots of green = 3-5 (not that that means anything anymore).

I’m not changing any plans at this point. But I’m thoroughly confused how TP expects people to use their tools when they make no sense. A flat estimate of Level 6 or Level 10 is helpful, but to change the heatmaps so drastically and not change the Crowd Level… either there’s a major glitch, or they’re recalibrating their entire system to not show solid red every day for the next 6 months, or… I don’t know. Does anybody here know what’s going on?

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That does sound odd. I’ve not looked at the heatmaps in that much detail, so hopefully someone else will understand it better…

Welcome to the forum :grinning:

@bebe80 likes the heatmaps I think and might have some insight. He likes all the more nerdy ends of this whole scene (which is fantastic - because my brain doesn’t work that way so it’s good to have someone in the group whose brain does)



:rofl::rofl::rofl: I see @bebe80 typing and it’s like “…you raaaang?” :rofl::rofl::rofl:


I assume you are talking about the TP Crowd Calendar prediction hourly heat maps?

TBH, I never thought that they were that important enough to look at or use. It’s common sense that waits will be shorter at the very beginning and very end of a park day. It’s hard enough for TP to predict a crowd level for a given day, let alone an hourly crowd level. I have no idea why the colors are not consistent with the same CL. My guess is that there is just not much time spent on it as far as a human reviewing after the initial data drop by the TP computer algorithms.

I always recommend digging into real past data from a similar CL as your forecasted CL planned days. It’s much more helpful. Let me know if you have questions about this.


Did she just call me a nerd :nerd_face:


Dude she totally did! She put out the nerd call and you came running :rofl:


:smirk: Well that’s the last time I do that! :wink:


Kind of. But in a good way


He did, didn’t he?

Shoe fits I guess :rofl:


That’s better


Ooh thanks for updating. Now I look like I have a stronger vocabulary! I look like a nerd myself :nerd_face:


Thanks for the welcome!

I use every tool I can find. I have used TP and thrill-data to loosely map our path each day, but of course all the LL options make it impossible to actually have a firm plan. So the hourly heat maps are helpful. Right now, they make NO SENSE for my days. On Tuesday, my CL 10 days were all red and orange - as expected. On Wednesday, they changed to yellow and green, but they still say they’re CL 10’s! But it seems no one knows why, or if the TP folks are in the middle of an update or calibration of some kind.

Just look at the calendar. Today at MK is an 8, and there’s lots of red.

But Wednesday at MK is ALSO an 8, yet the heat map is much cooler.

All of these changed this past Wednesday. Tuesday, the maps made sense compared to the CL levels, then Wednesday, they went wonky. Now all my CL 9 and 10 days are yellow and green. It’s so weird.


We should probably let @fred know of this contrast/error.


Ah shoot - this doesn’t make sense. Please disregard the heat maps until I can check on this.


OK, I see the issue. I will send a new Hourly Calendar to our server and we should see the new heat maps after it imports (about an hour).


OK, the new heat maps are up. I have scrolled through a few hundred of them and they look ok to me. If you see anything weird, let me know.

And thanks so much for bringing this to my attention! Best community ever! @bebe80 @Shmebulock @jpkkld


So true!
But also awesome customer service/administrator attention to detail :+1:t2: Thank you!


Yeah no kidding! I would never have expected anyone to drop everything and fix this in the middle of a Saturday afternoon!