Dropping 3rd FPP to get something else?

So here’s some warnings, just before you get all excited.

In your case to be able to see what was available in another park, you would have to go through the Modify screens, past the warnings about FPs getting cancelled.

Having done that and seen reasonable FPs, you’d then need to come right out of the Modify screens. Otherwise it would delete EE and Dinosaur.

So then you go to the Dinosaur FO and cancel it.

Now back to Adda new FP and through the rigmarole.

Not for the faint-hearted. You’d need your wits about you. Way too easy to mess it up in my book :sweat_smile:

I wouldn’t plan to be doing this unless I was genuinely relaxed about what rides to do in the next park. Then I’d just cancel and only then worry about what’s available in the next park.

Add to that the fact that MDE can glitch. If an FP doesn’t drop off your MDE when you scan in, then you won’t be able to continue without a visit to GS.

OK, so to me this sounds like something to try and do if on the day you are in a park your plans change and you want to hop to another park, not something you would plan on doing if you know that you will be hopping. Or at least do not plan on the idea that you will be able to hop and get useful Tier 1 FPPs - if you do, that is a bonus, but you TP in the second park should be based on the idea that you won’t.

This kind of goes along with my “bird in the hand” approach to making TPs with FPPs. I prefer to make TPs that utilize the most beneficial initial 3 FPPs - that way I know what to expect. I do not like to front load my FPPs early in the day (when they are not as beneficial) on the hopes that I will be able to book additional FPPs after I use them.

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Thanks, @brklinck I did prepare my TP’s assuming no FP’s in the second park. The problem is, we don’t want to spend the entire day at AK, but we really wanted to ride FoP, so I was stuck. However, @Nickysyme, let me see if I understand you. When I was trying to get FoP over the past month, I went into MDE and requested to Add FP+ at AK. The system warned we that I would have to cancel my FP’s at MK if I wanted to proceed. I clicked “Continue with this Guest” for each member of my party so that I could check AK. When I didn’t see anything I wanted at AK, I just backed out of the screens on my phone (or clicked Start Over on my computer). I never confirmed anything, so my MK FP’s were safe at that point. Is this the same process? If I see something at MK that I want for later, I back out of everything, cancel DINOSAUR, book a new FP at MK, and my EE won’t be canceled?

Yes, that’s the process. You must back out of that modify function completely, otherwise if you proceed and cancel (and this applies even if you only had one to cancel), it will treat it as a modify and only let you book another at the same park.

Before the system actually actions something it tells you what it’s about to do and you have to confirm.

I’m sure anyone who is comfortable using MDE on the go could manage it though, it’s not impossible. And if it helps you then go for it. But I wouldn’t want to use it with my heart set on certain FPs.

I agree totally with @brklinck here. It’s a very useful strategy to use if you change your mind. That’s probably how I would use it.

It’s also very useful for people wanting to ride FOP but who don’t want to rejig their entire plans. Just book FOP on a day where you don’t need to ride other tier 1 attractions (and let’s include 7dmt here too).

But it can also be a strategy to use if you plan to park hop, like people doing 4 parks in a day, or “all the mountains”.

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@marciemiwi have you tested this?

@AuntB_luvsDisney and @Nickysyme, I just saw something Len said in an older post about FP+ that confuses me a little.

This seems to imply that if you only book 1 or 2 FP+ in advance, once you use those up you can get another FP+ in Tier 1 in the same park. Do you know if this is the case, or if Len was mistaken? Or maybe things have changed since 2014 when he wrote that?

Yes, I tested that and did it quite awhile ago. Was at Epcot, was able to tap in at Soarin’ and then book a ride at MK and Fantasmic at HS once I’d scanned at the first. I tried to look through my old pics (know I had one showing it) but can’t find it right now. This was at least a year ago though so can’t swear it hasn’t changed. I’ll try to test it the next time I have free FP’s available in a park.

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@Beth33 - you definitely can’t do what he suggests there (get a second Tier 1 in the same park without using, tapping, or passing the windows of two Tier 2’s). You could do it for another park (ride Soarin’ then immediately grab one for RnRC for example).

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Great examples! I finally understand!

Could you also see if it works by booking just one first or if it is connected to canceling?

Hey, we just got back from our trip. I am not sure if this helps you, but here is what we did… We booked FoP, EE, and DINOSAUR back to back in the AM for AK in advance of our trip. After scanning into FoP, we attempted to modify DINOSAUR so that we could look at availability at MK. The normal warnings did not pop up, the system simply would not allow us to get past by “Continuing” with each guest. Not sure why, or if we did something wrong. I also attempted to get through the “Add a FP” process and same thing. We were blocked and could not bypass. However, I took a chance and just deleted my DINOSAUR FP, then went through the “Add” process and selected MK. The system allowed me to add an MK FP, even though I was still holding EE. The result was that I was holding EE and Winnie the Pooh in MDE at the same time.

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Thanks!

Another way to do this would be to check the Lines app for the next available FPP. That way, you would know what FastPasses are available at the other park before cancelling your third FPP. The main TouringPlans website also lists all the available FPP slots for the current day (eg. https://touringplans.com/magic-kingdom/fastpass-availability)

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Great info I think I get it although I am not sure I am the type of person that could leave this to chance on the day…gives me heart palpitations

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In most cases it would make sense to use all three FP reservations well in advance. But here’s our scenario: We’re going to Epcot for EMH, so I booked morning Fastpasses for Test Track, Mission Space, and um… Spaceship Earth. But the reality is that it shouldn’t be difficult to do Spaceship Earth during EMH, so I dropped that one because we’ll be going to HS in the afternoon.

Now, once I use my first FPP at 9:20, I’m hoping to be able to book one of the headliner attractions at the Studios for that afternoon. This should give us a leg up on people who have to wait until they’ve used all three of their initial FP allocation before trying to book a fourth. It’s also an advantage for folks like us who like to take a midday break and hop to a different park in the evening

Just as a follow up to my own post, we’re back from our trip now and this situation worked out exactly as I had hoped. We used our first FPP at Test Track and then we were able to immediately book a late-afternoon FPP at Rockin Roller Coaster.

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Glad it worked out for you. RnR is a popular FP, so it shows this FP “trick” works so well.

I use “trick” since it’s not well known. For probably obvious reasons. Trying to explain how FP+ works is one thing, trying to explain the intricate details like this on paper is nigh on impossible! It takes a while to get your head around it! In fact I’ve had one person refuse to believe it at all… :joy:

There was a recent thread on the WDW Reddit sub that took this even one level further. You can book your original three FP+ reservations, and then you can “move up” your reservations and start getting your extra FP+ reservations earlier in the day.

So say you have this:
Mine Train for 9:00am to 10:00am
Big Thunder for 10:00am to 11:00am
Teacups for 11:00am to 12:00pm

Once you’ve scanned your magic band and are in the FP+ line for Mine Train, you can modify your FP+ for Big Thunder to something that’s available sooner – say, 9:30 - 10:30. Then go to Big Thunder at 9:30 and scan your magic band. While waiting in the FP+ return line, use the app to try and get an earlier time for teacups. Once you’ve scanned at teacups, you can start getting your next FP+

Admittedly, this only works if earlier slots are available – popular rides like 7DMT and Space Mountain are unlikely to have earlier timeslots. But last week at the MK we were able to use three Fastpasses in less than an hour (something like Buzz at 4:00, teacups at 4:20, and dumbo at 4:40) just by constantly checking the app and modifying the FP when an earlier one was available.

It really pays to understand the intricacies of the system, and I was amazed at how often Fastpasses were coming available, even for some popular rides at a busy time of year. My one caveat is this: constantly checking the app can also come across as antisocial, taking time away from what you’re really there for – to spend time with your friends & family. Sometimes it’s best to put the phone away and make time for the important people you’re with.

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Okay, so this scenario popped up today, our last park day. Had FPP for FOP, EE, dinosaur. Did them all yesterday too and had to be back at Boardwalk by 3 for DME. did the first 2, done by 11:45. Didn’t have interest in dinosaur. Would have grabbed a RnRC or ToT if available. But I couldn’t modify for a different park. I had to cancel dinosaur to even check a different park. Ended up not having what we wanted, so we stopped there anyway.

You can’t modify one of your initial 3 to a different park. You have to cancel first, as you found out.

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