My DH says he is going to retire in 3 years, when he is 50. I don’t think it will happen, he will go out of his mind with boredom if he retires. But maybe he will trade his high stress job for a lower stress one.
I take no issue with them mandating a vaccine that has been around for 25 years. Nobody should be mandating a vaccine that’s not even FDA approved yet. Pneumonia alone killed 800,000 children under the age of 5 worldwide in 2017. Covid killed less than 10,000 under the age of 18. Zantac was just pulled from the market because after 40 years of it being on the market it’s been shown to cause cancer if not stored correctly. People who don’t want to take a brand new vaccine for something that is not any more deadly than the flu or pneumonia or a host of other common illnesses are not all crazy or conspiracy theorists. Some of us would like more research done before being required to take something that in all likelihood could harm us more than help us.
This. I love my job, and have been with the same organization for 22 years, but I don’t work more than I have to. I do my work well, and sometimes I will work over, but the job is a job, and my life is my life. The culture of the organization has changed; I wouldn’t still be there if it hadn’t. Money is great, but life balance is important.
Stats from the Mayo Clinic report in May
"So far, more than 32 million people have had COVID-19 in the U.S. So far, more than 580,000 people have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. in 2020 and 2021.
By comparison, during the 2019-2020 flu season in the U.S., about 38 million people had the flu and about 22,000 people died of the flu."
I found this to be informative between the difference in how drugs are tested and vaccines are tested. Vaccines are actually more strictly regulated.
My husband took Zantac for about the whole 40 years. This is the first I have heard of birth defects. We did follow closely the research on the connect to cancer. Do you have links to the birth defects info? A quick Google search linked to the cancer concerns.
Yeah, I’m not seeing any legit articles on birth defects. Just attorney websites.
I hate when others actions force organizations to change policy because of them. It sucks.
I was working in the office one day a week when the pandemic hit. All my work can be done at home now, and I think I’ve been back maybe 4 or 5 times since 3/2020 for short visits. I love working from home. I do get a lot more done.
I also have to say that I’m a recovering workaholic; I just about killed myself in this job several years ago, and it nearly ruined my marriage. Nothing is worth that.
A vaccine isn’t a medication/drug like Zantac. In the case of the Covid vaccines it’s method for introducing a piece of the virus’s spike protein to the body’s immune system so it can then respond to the virus if you’re exposed in the future. Like priming a pump.
The mRNA vaccine tech isn’t new. And the J&J and AZ tech is the old tried and true adenovirus.
DYING IS NOT THE ONLY BAD OUTCOME OF COVID.
Covid is causing more instances of things than the vaccine like:
-myocarditis
-blood clots
-ED
And then there are other things that Covid does like chronic lung damage, make people diabetic, and cause brain damage.
Sorry. It is related to cancer. I’m confusing conversations with my sister in which we discussed both Zantac and another medication that a friend of mine’s mother took while pregnant and both her children ended up Deaf. That medication has been off the market for years. I’ll edit my post.
4ish million people have died from Covid. In a typical year around 3 million die from pneumonia. Is Covid awful and am I glad there is a vaccine for those most at risk? Yes on both accounts. But I personally don’t think a new vaccine should be mandated for something that is not that much more deadly than something else that has been around forever.
Doing the math Flu rates of death: 0.05789 % die
Covid rates of death: 1.8125% not to mention Long-haul Covid or the cost of hospitalization. I don’t think there are any long term effects that stem from the flu.
Did I do the math right?
I do understand that death is not the only bad outcome of Covid. Personally, in our home we take no prescription medications. In our medicine cabinet we have ibuprofen, Benadryl for kids (just in case), and…I think that’s it. Maybe some cough drops. Our whole family is 100% vaxxed, including for things like rabies, which most people would never consider getting because it’s so dang expensive. I am not anti-vax or anti-medicine. I am anti-drugs unless absolutely necessary, as I think that many times they cause more problems than they fix and that our bodies build up immunity to them. I’ve never had a flu shot, either. I am so, so glad there is now a vaccine for those who are the most at risk. I do not feel like it should be mandated for those who don’t want it, whatever those reasons are.
In the US, however, only about 50,000 people a year die of pneumonia. In the US in 2020, it was 375,000 of Covid. Those are vastly different numbers. And that 375,000 was WITH pretty severe restrictions. Can you imagine what it would have been without those lockdowns? (Those huge number of pneumonia deaths worldwide are often in countries with poor medical care, and without pneumococcal vaccines.) (Edit - I went and checked. By far, far the vast majority of pneumonia deaths are in various African countries and Pakistan; air pollution and HIV infection rates are also a factor.)
You are entitled to your opinion. At this point millions of people have gotten the vaccine over the past 7 months. A huge pool of people to spot side effects. A few rare side effects have been found. It’s not going to be long before Pfizer and Moderna are going to be approved, it’s pretty much presumed they will be.
If a business wants to mandate, then that is their decision. People have the freedom of choice to work there or not. If you don’t agree with what they are mandating, then it’s time to find a company you feel comfortable working for.
I’m also careful with medications. My kids take allergy meds and occasional Tylenol. My youngest has been prescribed Prilosec, but he is off it for now, as his reflux tends to calm down during the summer. For me, I get reactions to medications so I rarely take anything other than ibuprofen. I hardly ever get side effects from a vaccine, including the flu shot (which I’ve gotten every year for 12 years.) A sore arm and some fatigue is about it. So I’d rather do that than have to take any kind of meds for being ill or severely ill.
Well, you don’t have to like mandates but it’s not up to you. The federal government doesn’t really have the authority to have a blanket mandate for all Americans. That power falls to the individual states. The federal government can mandate vaccines for all their employees and contractors, though, and good on them if they do. And good on state and local governments to mandate their employees be vaccinated.
Businesses definitely have the power to mandate vaccines for their employees as a term of employment (hospitals already mandate things like flu shots). As most employment in the US is “at will” if you don’t like the requirements of an employer you can quit or decline to take a job with that employer. Employers, particularly the big ones, are going to start (some have already started) mandating vaccines because they don’t want productivity affected by a bunch of people being out of work.
So do we only care about the US numbers? I don’t usually live in the US. Like I said and have said a million times, I’m glad there is a vaccine available for those who are most at risk, for those who want it. Many countries with high pneumonia deaths have no need of a Covid vaccine because people’s life expectancy is so low, so the most “at risk” are dead long before Covid is a major factor for them. 2.7ish million Covid deaths come out of 12 countries which are also in the top 20 for GDP. Covid is a rich, old person’s disease. That is a generalization, but it is one that is mostly true.
ahhh… covid is everywhere on the planet right now, in every country, and it doesn’t care if your rich, poor, young, old, brown or white. If allowed to run free it will continue to mutate and possibly become untreatable.
No, my point was that those numbers of people who die of them worldwide don’t mean that those are roughly equivalent dangers to a person who contracts the disease. And there’s tons of evidence that the covid numbers are VASTLY undercounted in developing countries; Covid just got here, and other first world countries, first, because well-off-countries have more people traveling. (Most reliable sources estimate the death count of Covid in India alone at around 4 million.)