After years of planning, I'm kinda terrified of G+/LL

I’m working on it! Hopefully won’t be too boring!

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Yay! It’s a Disney Trip Report, it could never be boring. :blush:

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I haven’t read anyone’s responses yet, but I completely feel the same way about my upcoming trip. I absolutely loved the process of planning my trips in the past…meticulously picking my fast pass times and then, once I nabbed them at the 60 day mark, reworking all of my plans to make the best touring day possible. Now I feel completely lost. Any touring plan I make on the site, I completely second guess and think it won’t matter because who knows what LLs I will get. I feel your pain!

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I completely felt this way too before my trip a few weeks ago, but it went really well. I felt a lot more confident after the first day, though it was always stressful not being able to plan adequately in advance. It felt more stressful than FP+, but it also felt hard to argue with success, since I was getting 6 (AK) to 11 (MK) LLs per day.

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Disney needs to add you to their IT team for sure!! BG1 is sooo good!!! Thanks for sharing it with Liners and making life at Disney parks easier!

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Actually, my only concern now is how should I ride RoTR if I am staying off property. ILL seems to go fast and TP does not recommend rope droping it. Leaving it for late night if it is our only day at DHS, would be like a lottery as the ride is always down for long periods of time. So, I am not sure when should I ride it and it is one of our priorities as my kids are SW fans! I am a big planner too but changed my approach for this trip and only work with priorities and not a time schedule.
MK I’m planning 7 am G+ for Mickey and Minnie M&G, 11am for Peter Pan’s, and 1 pm for Jungle Cruise as I prefer to ride it at night. Rope drop for Thunder and Splash.
AK I am not sure if it is worth it to buy G+ so my priority will be Kilimanjaro Safari and to get one ILL for FoP at park openinig.
DHS 7 am G+ for SSD, 11 am MFSR and 1 pm for MMRR (we are not riding ToT or RnRRC.
Epcot priorities are Remy’s and Test Track so I should see if they are ILL or G+ near my october trip.
Hope this may help planners to lighten the weight off their shoulders a bit. Have a nice day!

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We rope dropped ROtR last month and even with the heat and crowds it was worth it. We had done an ILL before and didn’t realize how much neat stuff we missed in the line.

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Which strategy did you use…stacking the afternoon/evening or churning one throughout the day?

What time did you arrive for rope drop and how long did you end up waiting? We aren’t going to pay the extra money for the ILL, but I really want to ride this!

Agree. We’re going with three kids under 6, and I think we are going to be ‘out at dinner and not coming back’. I miss FP+. :frowning:

G+ is more like MaxPass or original FP, which I like better. I didn’t like FP+ and needing to plan a month out. If only they’d get rid of park reservations, but I don’t see that as being likely.

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when we were there in June, we just waited for ROTR 7PM. Just over an hour wait. Was very doable just normal waiting.

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I was mostly stacking, but not entirely. Generally 1st was something high priority and harder to get, and 2nd was something with a quicker return. Then stacking. I have teenagers with fast fingers so we did pretty well with getting early 1st LLs.

MK:
Space (high priority and did not want all thrill rides saved for afternoon)
after that it was too early to get Peter Pan, given our long mid-day break. so I got a couple with morning returns before starting to stack. Of note, we were not interested in jungle cruise.

HS:
Slinky
RNR (got somewhat lucky to get before lunch)
then stacking
Of note, I chose a Sunday for HS because LL availability seems much better on weekends.

EP:
Test Track (high priority for all my kids)
Frozen (high priority for one)
Spaceship Earth, with return time before lunch
After that I actually had to wait before stacking (starting with Soarin) because everything was running early. It was June 28 and I wasn’t expecting that. I did not get Remy in the morning because it was of much lower priority to my family, but if you want it, get that 1st because it won’t generally be available later. Test Track or Frozen you can almost definitely get 2nd, but no guarantees for after that.

AK: (note: no mid-day break, left before dinner)
Navi
Adventurers Outpost (mid-morning return)
Safari, etc

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OP, I totally agree with you, started reading the responses, and then this thread turned into a foreign language. Someone please just give me a touring plan on a piece of paper.

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In line at 8:30 (early entry staying on property) and on ride at 9:40. It was a very crowded day but the wait wasn’t bad at all.

I’m trying to get things figured out here. I can absolutely see where BG1 is going to be an awesome help. Thank you very much for developing that! My question…if I want to stack, I can only see one time available in BG1, will there be multiple selections of later times available in Genie+?

For instance, if we rope drop Rise then hit ToT and RnR. At 7:00 AM I was planning to grab a later SDD then 9:00 a ToT, 11:00 RnR, etc etc. We’ll probably hop to Epcot so at some point I will start grabbing some Epcot stuff too. Speaking of Epcot, do I have to be in Epcot to grab the 6:00 VQ drop for Guardians? I’ve got a month to kinda get this stuff figured out. Thanks for all the help. To not derail anything here, please feel free to PM me instead of replying. Thank you all for your help. Was FPP+ pro. Hoping to get close to the same here. Obviously won’t be exactly the same because you can only grab things once.

Hoping some of our time we won’t really need to worry about it as we’ll hit MK for the MNSSHP and then from 11:00 - 1:00 AM for extended hours. should be lower crowds then. Really want to maximize our HS ride time and to some extent AK although i don’t think we’ll need Genie as much there. Thanks again!

in either G+ or BG1 you will only see the next available time. You can try stacking but remember that not all rides will have the same availability and you might not be able to stack them nicely.

I recommend that you do a test run using Thrilldata to check what will be available at each time and see what works. See link below (scroll down a bit or click in each park to see a park-specific table). In the LL availability table you can see what is available when.

And remember, your next selection is 2 hours AFTER PARK OPENING so you won’t be able to do that 9:00 selection for ToT until 11:00am.

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thank you! I will definitely take a look. So I can book at 7:00 because we are onsite, but then I can’t book again until 11:00? Is that right? If I grab an early SDD then I would be able to book something else as soon as I tap in though correct? This Genie stuff is so freakin confusing.

Onsite and offsite guests are identical for G+ purposes. Both can make their first bookings at 7AM. Only for $ILL rides (eg RotR) is there a difference: onsite guests can book $ILL’s at 7AM, offsite must wait til park opening.

If you need a review of the basics, see post 1 in the main Genie thread.

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Personally, a pure late stacking approach seems harder than catching a falling knife and most people just like it because of the “rush” feeling you get when you are able to chain several passes in a row.

However, you can do that by using BG1 smartly and drops to your benefit. BG1 also has the highly convenient option of Merlock’s picks which are high-demand attraction with quick return times.

A better strategy is this:

  1. at 6:50am preload you BG1 with your top priority pick (SDD, Remy, FEA, etc.). Do not wait like an idiot in the attraction selection screen wasting precious seconds! That’s ok for testing but not for the real deal.
  2. at 7:00am complete you LL selection. You will get an early time because everyone else with be scrolling, refreshing and selecting their parties.
  3. at 7:01am do you ILL pick, remember you can choose the return times for these. If offsite, sit back and relax.
  4. if offsite, at park opening, make your ILL selections. If RDing, just step aside and forget about the crowds for a second. Investing some time here will save you precious time later.
  5. Ride your “second priority” or the “second tier” attractions first before you use your first LL. Why? because you will be riding the top tiers using either LL or drops and you can get ahead of everyone rushing to the top tiers because you will already have your LL pass.
  6. Maybe ride one more on SB.
  7. Use your first LL before the first drop.
  8. Use Merlock’s picks as available
  9. 10:17 or 10:47am (depending on park) get the first drop. But Sneaky, how will I remember so many time? First, set alarms. Second, BG1 display the next drop time always. The first drops are always more reliable,
  10. Keep selecting Merlock’s picks or LL as you feel like.
  11. Keep hunting those drops. If you play it right you can get upwards 7 passes or more this way.
  12. Enjoy a well deserved rest while thinking about all those stacking fools who are just arriving at the park with their meager stack of 3 or 4 passes.
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