Proposed 2023 Annual Dues

Disney Vacation Club
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These have been published today:

Resort 2022 Dues 2023 Dues Increase
Animal Kingdom Villas $8.2365 $8.8099 +6.96%
Aulani $8.6739 $9.1424 +5.40%
Aulani Subsidized $6.5205 $6.8727 +5.40%
Bay Lake Tower $7.0826 $7.4255 +4.84%
Beach Club Villas $7.5362 $8.1655 +8.35%
BoardWalk Villas $8.0802 $8.5309 +5.58%
Boulder Ridge $8.1469 $8.5110 +4.47%
Copper Creek Villas $7.6020 $7.9203 +4.19%
Grand Californian $7.4824 $8.0409 +7.46%
Grand Floridian $7.0077 $7.3332 +4.64%
Hilton Head $10.0707 $10.7305 +6.55%
Old Key West $8.8063 $9.3570 +6.25%
Polynesian $7.3859 $7.9475 +8.04%
Riviera $8.3840 $8.5049 +1.81%
Saratoga Springs $7.3287 $7.8622 +7.28%
Vero Beach $11.9405 $12.8503 +7.62%
Vero Beach Subsidized $9.4100 $10.1298 +7.65%
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Thanks for posting! Oof. Feeding and caring for exatic animals is spendy. But I just check my DVC spreedsheet and I projected the AKV dues at $9.00 so I guess I am coming out ahead!

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I should have posted a link, so you can click on each resort to see the Condominium Association Notice (for some reason that doesn’t come over here)

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When I look at my buy DVC versus Rent Points comparison spreadsheet, I had taken the average increase in dues, then increased it slightly to account for higher than expected cases. But this is the second year in a row now that it is almost DOUBLE what I expected the increase to be. Since this compounds annually on future increases, it means that the investment into DVC will now take until our 6th trip to break even rather than our 5th.

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As far as I recall they’re still rolling out the CM wage increase they announced a couple of years ago. Also not sure whether the property taxes might have been higher than normal.

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I love seeing how people do their calculations. I don’t have any projections, but for each trip I calculate:

  1. what I am actually paying per night (this is dues plus cost per point per year over the life of the contract)
  2. what I would pay direct from Disney per night
  3. what I would pay for accommodation if I didn’t own DVC (i.e. where would we actually stay, not deluxe!)
  4. How much I will have paid per night if Disney disappeared tomorrow.

I think after two more stays (I have had 4) #2 will be higher than #4 - so at one break even point - and close to your break even.

It will take a long time for #3 will catch up to #4 - but that is really an apples to oranges comparison.

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I also look at how much my stay would be if I paid out of pocket to determine when I’ll break even. I had not considered that I wouldn’t rent a 2 bv on my own :laughing: but I’ll stick w/ my method for ease of calculation :smirk:

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It will take 3 stays for me to break even, but that’s a full week every 2 years (doubling up points), so more like 5-6 stays for someone traveling annually.

Dues are definitely rising faster than anticipated for SSR (From DVC Resale Market):

Resort 2022 Annual Dues 2021 Annual Dues Growth 2021 to 2022 Inception to Date CAGR*
Animal Kingdom $8.24 $8.07 2.0% 3.9%
Aulani** $8.67 $8.35 3.8% 3.8%
Bay Lake Tower $7.08 $6.90 2.7% 5.2%
Beach Club $7.54 $7.44 1.3% 3.6%
Boardwalk $8.08 $7.81 3.4% 3.0%
Boulder Ridge $8.15 $8.11 0.5% 4.1%
Copper Creek $7.60 $7.59 0.2% 0.7%
Grand Californian $7.48 $6.99 7.0% 5.2%
Grand Floridian $7.01 $6.81 2.9% 2.9%
Hilton Head $10.07 $9.97 1.0% 6.9%
Old Key West $8.81 $8.36 5.4% 4.4%
Polynesian $7.39 $7.05 4.7% 3.1%
Riviera Resort $8.38 $8.38 0.0% 0.6%
Saratoga Springs $7.33 $7.11 3.1% 3.7%
Vero Beach*** $11.94 $11.23 6.3% 4.9%

*Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) is the year over year growth rate of the dues over a multiple-year period
**Aulani Contracts that originated pre-July 6th, 2011 have dues in 2022 of $6.52/pt.
***Vero Contracts that originated pre-January 1st, 1996 have dues in 2022 of $9.41/pt.

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I took a look at my spreadsheet from 2017 and I used 3.5% as my estimate when buying SSR. I’m curious what you used? I do think 3-4 has been a historical average. Where do you own?

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BWV is a little higher than I planned but my CCV usually makes up for it.

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I used 4% for SSR, even though the average had been 3-4%. I figured 4% would be safe.

Guess not.

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OK fine but it costs next to nothing to step on a pop top or blow out a flip flop and I’m paying a lot more than you. What’s up with that?!

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I was wondering the exact same thing. Does OKW have a gold course?

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Golf

The pro shop is at SSR. I’m not sure who pays for it :thinking:

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This is by far the better number to look at!

But my DH (who I still can’t believe agreed to buy DVC) always asks about the other. Good news, DVC is still.leading by an average of $100 a night compared to where we “would” have stayed. Typically moderates.

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Stinks if you don’t play golf! And SSR is so much lower :thinking:

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We do golf. I played LBV in April!

But I still don’t know if we pay for it in our dues.

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I have tried to figure out why OKW is so much higher than others and my guess is the fact it’s many smaller buildings vs a few larger ones also more real estate so more real estate taxes, etc.

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Old buildings cost more to maintain, which would partly explain OKW having bigger rises as time goes on.

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Has anyone run the HH costs recently? They are higher, but that gap seems to be less?

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