I would not just say “less than a majority”, but “rarely”. Still, not never. We have bought it (or, well, it’s predecessor) a few times in specific circumstances, but usually it isn’t worth it for us. We ARE considering it for a single day at MK in February, however.
I have purchased LLSP for Tron and GotG…but I wouldn’t pay for it for Tron again. I will for GotG though!
As far as LLPP…well, I’m actually less bothered by LLPP than LLMP, and might even splurge on it for some future trip if the scenario is right. (Although, having said that, I think the idea of them offering both LLMP and LLPP does water down some of the appeal of LLPP.)
ETA: I should point out that I’m mostly against any kind of skip the line service…but I’m not so hard-nosed about the position to not realize that a large percentage of folks are forking over money for it, so it means it is not a hill to die on.
I’m just not a rides person. That doesn’t mean I won’t ride any rides, but so few of them are on my radar that I’m happy to wait in line since I’m in a wheelchair.
I haven’t been since the LLMP system came in, I think it was Genie+, but I also remember paying extra for some rides like Rise and FoP. Can’t remember what that was called! It was Xmas & NY of 2022/23
If I was to return, chances are that I would buy it for most days (more than half).
You voted correctly based on the way I worded it. But I should have worded the “never” option as “(almost) never use LLMP” to mirror the “(almost) always buy LLMP” option. But oh, well.
Also I forgot to have an option for “I have used LLPP once.” But this is why I always have an “Other” option. LOL
Haven’t been under the current iteration. Under Genie Plus and the one before that, we bout Fastpass most of the time…. rarely (but ocassionally) but a single ride pass…. I can’t make the value proposition on premier pass work.
When we went in 2022, DH had a DAS pass and we bought ILLs (what was Individual Lightning Lane at the time) for Guardians and Rise. Tron wasn’t online, yet. We didn’t utilize Genie +.
Next trip we are not planning on buying any skip the line services.
Our goal is to enjoy moments and what we get to do to the fullest rather than trying to do the most.
There are so many lovely queue lines we’ve missed because we were always an “how much can we get done to make this worth it” family.
Next trip we are relaxing and looking at all the lovely details that the Imagineers have put in place that we previously skipped over.
So the thing is I don’t wanna go back so I put that I buy llmp and LLSP for everyday/everything but the last two trips I had (one to DL and one to WDW) were my first since LLPP was introduced and I bought it for both and likely won’t go back now that it’s an option.
The peace I get from just doing whatever I want when I want is priceless.
This episode also covered a few other LL related topics I thought might be worth mentioning:
Making use of 119 minute extended grace period
Trade off of phone time to use 6-9 LLs per day vs 3-4
Letting your first LL expire does NOT unlock tiers
How using a LL for an attraction allows you to use EE to ride a different attraction with a shorter line, effectively making one LL worth two attractions
I thought that last point was interesting. Each LL saves you time in line for that ride, but it also lets you experience another ride sooner. So there is a multiplying effect.
I wrote that I would probably never buy LLPP, because with Advanced LLMP techniques shared here I’ve never had a problem getting any LL I want - I would feel guilty about spending that much money for a family of four when I could get the same result using my Liner skills.
AND YET, I just bought EPs for Epic Universe for our upcoming UOR trip (for four people, at around $250 p/p) - mainly because it’s our first trip and I want to do everything.
So I fear it’s a slippery slope and as the planner of the family, I can’t deny that the ease of LLPP/Express Pass that @gingerSnaps543222’s talks about sounds very appealing. I think I would crack if LLPP offered multiple rides like UOR’s UXP does (I got that at a GREAT deal with a night at a signature hotel). But since that’s very unlikely to happen for WDW, I think/hope that I’ll stick with LLMP/LLSP for the time being.
That’s definitely true too! But I can still see the appeal of having an occasional “day off” from planning.
A couple’s trip would be a good occasion to use LLPP. I wouldn’t be tempted to buy it for a solo trip because there’s no pressure to please anyone besides me - and I’m happy for my days to be flexible AND to spend time on my phone while solo touring. But the exponential cost for a family trip is also off-putting. So a 2-person trip where you want complete flexibility to go where the wind takes you would be a perfect opportunity to try it.
I only buy MP or previous G+ because of the price. I have never bought a skip the line pass at any other park because it costs too much (and we don’t do crazy coasters either). My kids complain at other parks how they hate standing in line. Because it’s technically only good for a few rides, it keeps the price down.
Yes. This is where I might consider it. I even looked at it for our trip in December because we were going into Epcot (our only true park day) at 1:00 pm. We were there primarily for the FotH, plus the Candelight processional…but I though buying the LLPP would make a nice way to just hop on each ride as we pass by without worrying about wait times or having to “plan” using LLMP at all. In the end, we decided against it, because we had Deluxe evening hours that night, and getting on rides wasn’t our goal for the day. But on another trip, the idea of “going where the wind takes you” might be something that is worth splurge on. It would need to be for a shorter trip, though, where I wouldn’t otherwise have plenty of time to get on the rides throughout the course of a trip. It may never happen. But I’m not opposed to it in the same way I am opposed to LLMP, Genie+, and even FastPass(+). Skip the line systems should be so rarely used (relatively speaking) that the impact on normal guests is minimal at best. Otherwise you are stealing time from other paying guests, but Disney is profiting. (Oh. Weird. I’m finding myself standing on a soapbox. How did that happen?)
