V’GER is popular theory for the origin, but the timeline doesn’t add up. At a bare minimum, The Borg had been around at least 900 years by the time of their first appearance.
Canon is intentionally vague. The Borg Queen suggested they started as normal sentient life forms who progressively integrated cybernetic enhancements. Other dialogue throughout TNG, DS9, Voyager, and “Picard” suggests they’re anywhere from hundreds to thousands of years old. In the non-canonical Star Trek: Destiny book series, the Borg are created by the forced merging of a species called the Caeliar with humans from a time-displaced Starfleet ship in 4527 BC
That was a heck of a deep dive. Thank you
In the terrible third season, the Enterprise met Apollo. Not an alien who was the “ancient astronaut” inspiration for the mythological character. The actual Greek god Apollo, who was the last Olympian to die because humans had stopped worshipping them.
If something that stupid can be canon, then I don’t see why people get so bent out of shape about Shatner & Bennet writing a powerful psychic alien posing as the god of whoever was able to contact him.
Totally agree! There’s tons of wild stuff in The Original Series that is no more or less canon-breaking or ridiculous than what happens in The Final Frontier. (Though I’m a season 3 defender – don’t @ me!) Plus, “What does God need with a starship?” is an all-timer of a line.
That said, I think what truly makes Star Trek V feel of a piece with The Original Series to me is that it centers the bickering yet “ride or die” dynamic among Kirk Spock and Bones amid the wooly adventure, paying tribute to the camaraderie and back-and-forth between them that was central to what made the 1960s show so engaging, apart from the plot of the week.
What goes on here
The highest point in the state.
A portion of the Santa Fe trail
Which is also alleged to be heard in the middle of the night. Folks camping out here have claimed to hear the jingling of the animals’ traces as they pull the wagons along.
Also, possibly where one mountain man succumbed to thirst while going astray leading a group through the dry area.
I wouldn’t have posted such interesting info if not for the Star Trek info. ![]()
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Also the answer is “not slavery”! That land would have been part of Texas, but when the state joined the union, it had to give up that territory in order to comply with the Missouri compromise which essentially said “no new slave states above this latitude.” Shamefully, Texas would rather give up that chunk of land than give up slavery, but that’s how it ended up with Oklahoma.
(Incidentally, Oklahoma is also canonically where humanity first encountered the Klingons, though unfortunately it was rather far from the panhandle.
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As I think about it, perhaps it was a conceptual origin rather than a canonical one (honestly didn’t know that much of the Trek lore).
Are you pretty close to this area?
I live in Central Missouri
I’ve traveled much in the states between MO and NM/CO.
Ah that’s right! I knew that.
But, please, where are the eggs and waffles?
Yes! Probably one of my favorite scenes in not just TFF but all ten movies was the main trio sitting around the campfire on shore leave
DeForest Kelly gave it
in the scene where Sybok delves into Bones’ psyche. And credit to Lawrence Luckinbill, he’s playing the role with total sincerity













