I can't figure out LLs on custom touring plans

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Howdy friends, long time no see!

After a hiatus from the parks since 2021 - literally about 2 weeks before Genie+ went into effect was my last visit - I’m back planning a trip for May, tacked on to the end of a Disney Treasure cruise. But oh how things have changed since my last visit!

I’m trying to build out my custom touring plans, but I can’t figure out how to get the LL multipass stuff right. I see that you enable the multipass down below, but then are you essentially just guessing as to when you “hope” that you’ll be able to get a return window for attractions after your initial three? I’ve taken a look at the Thrill-Data Lightning Lane Sell Out Data, which is helpful, but not sure if that’s the best thing to base it on?

Also, sometimes, it will insert for me a note about obtaining my next LL:

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But it doesn’t do this all the time for all the subsequent ones. What am I doing wrong?

Right now I’m working on HS, which will be my highest projected crowd day (currently at a 7) and also, since we’re getting off the cruise and having to move luggage to the Swan that morning, not a day I’ll be able to rope drop. Hoping to choose SDD, ASS, and TSM as my initial 3 picks, but then very much hoping to still be able to get LLMP returns for MFSS, TOT, RRC, and MMRR that afternoon/evening.

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Nothing - it’s tricky and confusing and some of the bugs have me shrugging.

I usually make my plan without LLs. That way I’m not relying on them, but if I get them, that’s great, and I end up with more buffer in my plan. Basically, I try to get a LL for the attraction(s) that have the highest standby waits.

Or, if I think I know better, you can hard code which return times you get. Or put in a break for a specific amount of time rather than the attraction. Keep fiddling with it – trial and error is the best teacher.

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This is what I currently have, though I feel almost certain that I’m being overly optimistic about being able to get all these LLs. Custom Touring Plan: Hollywood Studios

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A couple of thoughts:

  • For pre-booked LLs, at least in theory, you can’t overlap by more than 20 minutes (in practice you may find it possible :man_shrugging:).
  • I recommend you get SDD, TSM, and ToT as your pre-booked, if possible. You should be able to get these times since they don’t overlap.
  • You may not see a 1:30pm ASS when you tap in to SDD, but you could just ride it standby if the wait is acceptable to you, or get one for later.
  • It’s ok for SP to overlap, so you should have no problem getting Rise for 2:00pm.
  • By the time you are booking your 4th + LLs, you may just have to play it by ear and see what times are available. On the days I have been, it has been possible to churn through all the rides in an afternoon / evening. But if you go on a busy day, maybe not. In any case, plan for the worst case scenario of only having three prebooked, then go from there.

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Good luck!

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It’s also worth bearing in mind the long grace period - so you can book a lightning line earlier than you expect to use it to then get rides close together with the allowed overlap. LLMP is 119 mins after expiration for a green tap. This gives a bit more flexibility when hunting for times

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