YMMV
People rave about both. I would personally not go back to Blue Dragon. It was very mid.
Atlantic is beautiful and the overworked server did the best she could. Food issues arose at the time and they, too, did the best they could to rectify them. The filet was solid: I’ve had much worse elsewhere. The desserts are creative and fun. Maybe I would go back?
How was Oak Star Tavern? Epic Day 1 I’ve got 1pm Blue Dragon and 9pm Bar Helios to watch the 940pm fountain show from up there. Epic Day 2 I was planning Cafe L’air de la Sirene for lunch and Atlantic booked at 5pm so we can catch the sunset from there. Sounds like maybe redo the Blue Dragon to Pizza Moon but if Atlantic is what made people sick?
I like it. Especially when they have the live music.
Excellent decision: but time it right. It gets really backed up at conventional meal times.
Expensive but good and the show has to be seen from above for maximum effect.
I personally would do that.
We can’t know for sure. And if there was a regular problem word would be out. I think we were unlucky. Maybe avoid the crab claws!
I planned for Lobster Roll, fingers crossed!
Expensive but good and the show has to be seen from above for maximum effect.
Yup this is why from Bar Helios I wanted to do it. I think it might have been your first trip where I learned that? Was it you that mentioned seeing the whole park lighting up in conjunction with the songs/area.
Yeah. I did ground level at the fountain amphitheatre and from Bar Helios. Much prefer the elevated view: it’s spectacular.
Thank you!
So JetBlue, which I already told you is the worst airline I have ever dealt with, has announced that our aircraft is out of service. They are looking for another one.
My London flight departs Boston at 8pm. It is currently 12.30pm. It takes about 3-3½ hours to fly to BOS from MCO.
I called Virgin who are the airline for the BOS-LHR leg. They said they didn’t care and it sucks to be me.
The gate agent told me to call JetBlue. For some reason my phone won’t let me do that. I’m in a queue for an online chat with them.
When was that ever not the case?
Meanwhile the JetBlue app says my flight is departing on time.
Logan still shows that flight on time too. There is one that lands at 6:44. Can you get on that one?
JetBlue is always delayed from MCO to Boston.
The app currently says this:
But the gate agent has said nothing and it feels like a lie.
The later flight would be cutting it close, but there’s a gamble. Maybe they will find a new plane. Soon. Helpfully they are keeping their plans secret.
That’s not a bad delay for JetBlue but it may be a lie. I have spent many afternoons sitting at Wine Bar George waiting for updates.
It was a lie. It is now 1.20pm and we are all in the lounge. It has been replaced with a new “estimate” of 2.20pm. The issue is a maintenance one. The plane is here. It just doesn’t work.
My fingers are crossed really hard for you! 
He’s gonna make it! 
Was not the crab claws. I am allergic to crab claws or anything from water. We all got sick but I’m the only one who didn’t eat seafood. My money is actually on the dessert. Just a fluke really.
Hey! I’m so sorry I’ve missed this until now. I’m still unemployed and not on TP anywhere near as much as before. (Maybe once or twice a week instead of every 30 minutes!)
I love @JuliaMc for this! My birthday was last week. Nothing will ever compare to the best birthday ever gifted by her!!
This is how a VIP tour should be! I’ve been in WDW LL queues standing next to a Plaid and their group. It’s still nice to be able to not worry about scheduling the LL, but IMHO not a “VIP” experience.
Please give me your blunt opinion on BatM. I know you say it’s 9 / 10. Does it compete with RotR at Disney? I’m so looking forward to it, but every review I see says it’s a disappointment compared to RotR. Everyone raves about MU though!
Nice! I wonder if this will be available at a queue tour, like other UOR attractions??
I was so disappointed in it at USH. It’s small, crowded and feels more like a very high tech kiddie playland than anything else.
Oh no!! That’s awful!!
They really are! The tickets and such say nonrefundable and such, but I’ve never had an issue getting a refund or credit at UOR!! It one of the reasons I love them!
Glad you got home safe!!! Miss you!!
That sucks! The guide is supposed to be part of the experience. (Speaking as a former Graceland VIP tour guide!)
How miserable! I’m glad everyone was able to rally though!
ROTR has multiple features: a pre-show, a sort-of motion simulator, a jaw-dropping room, some CM interaction, a trackless ride featuring a drop, all with screens and physical props.
BATM is FJ on steroids – it is almost entirely screen-based, but there are physical props and there are animatronics. There is a section that I think is almost as jaw-dropping as the storm trooper entry bay.
BATM nudges me close to my limit of motion-sickness, but it’s fine. ROTR doesn’t nudge me anywhere near.
The line for BATM is a mixture of jaw-dropping (the Ministry) and kinda interesting and very cool (Umbridge’s office). The line for ROTR is pretty meh. I would choose to use the BATM SB line just to walk the whole line over the XP line if the SB line were around an hour. (In the same way I have walked the FOP standby line when it has been around an hour because I think it’s worth it. The BATM line is way better than the FOP line.) I would never voluntarily use the ROTR standby line.
Interestingly I regard BATM as an essential for each trip. I don’t regard ROTR in the same way. Here is something obnoxious:
As you know, when you are with the right people you can ride whatever you want, whenever you want. Sometimes you ride things because they are there, because you can, not because you especially want to. ROTR is like that for me. You see all these people in long lines and you whizz past them because you can and you’re spoiled. But other than the stormtrooper bay and to a lesser extent that AT-AT room, I find the whole thing a bit too disjointed to get really immersed into it.
So for that reason, I give my vote to BATM as being a nudge higher than ROTR. But then I am more emotionally invested in Harry Potter than I am in Star Wars, despite JK Rowling being a Bad Person.
It wasn’t so much that he was a bad tour guide. It was that he had a pretty fixed view of what his role was and that didn’t always suit our group. He didn’t adapt very well to how we wanted to tour. We had him for eight hours and there’s not enough in Epic to fill eight hours if you’re getting front-of-line access to everything. At one point we said, “Can we just wander round Paris and you point out cool stuff to us.” He said, “sure”. But then he showed us one thing and then took us out of the portal and onto something else. It would have been awkward to say “No! Show us more stuff.”
