šŸ§“ Do you reapply?

Yes. Once you burn the damage to your skin is done. I never really burn either. But sun damages the skin well before you burn. It prematurely ages your skin so I stay protected! But I do this in everyday life as well. And I bug everyone about wearing sunscreen. :grin:

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Same. It can be wiped off. Itā€™s much harder to do. But I reapply mid day to be safe if Ill be outdoors.

I run into a lot of people (often women) here in the Phoenix area who clearly have been paying a lot of attention to their physical appearance ā€” exercise, fashion, plastic surgery, cosmetics, etc. ā€” whose skin is rough as leather thanks to years in the sun and not protecting themselves. Of course the fact that our culture valued suntanned skin for a while without regard for (or perhaps understanding of) the risks was unfortunate. Now we know better.

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My teen years were tan with Hawaiian Tropic. Lol. But then as a young adult I learned about the damage sun does. And cancer is also a real risk. I think itā€™s easier for women to wear sunscreen on their faces because many of or beauty routine products have SPF protection built in.

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Yesā€¦ if Iā€™m out in the parks more than 4 hours then I usually will need to reapply.

Our non-north American friends might not need to reapply, as there are much better sunscreen ingredients approved thereā€¦ the FDA hasnā€™t approved a new one since the 90s (including the one thatā€™s in most non-American spf products for the past 20+ years), partly because they consider sunblock to be a drug, and require animal testing. The EU considers it a cosmetic, and they ban animal testing in cosmetics, which means thereā€™s a conflict.

TL;DR: when youā€™re in other continents, you should stock up on their sunblock

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What you and I need to reapply liberally is bug spray.

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Well, yes. Or we need to just stay away from the bushes!

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Iā€™m about as pale as a ghost and I usually try and wear a t shirt-not tank tops and always have a hat. I reapply to face and neck a couple times throughout the day after initial application, but usually only need to apply to my legs/arms once per day and am good. Thereā€™s so much shade and indoor things at the parks I think it blunts the sun by breaking it up, and we avoid certain areas like SWGE during afternoonsā€¦Iā€™ve never had a big burn at Disney.

I also read a couple years ago about a study where people put on different spfā€™s of sunscreen and they recorded how long it took each person to burn after application. They found that the higher the spf, the longer the sunscreen protected with spf 100 protecting twice as long as spf 30 (I remember the examples with the 100spf didnā€™t burn for several hours). Who knows if you can believe what you read on the internet, but Iā€™ve tried to find higher sod sunscreens and never burn and I am PALE.

Finally, I am married to a man who looks like heā€™s been at the beach all day, everyday and he never ever wears sunscreen, and if he burns it turns into more golden tan on top of his already golden tan. If I accidentally miss one spot on my back on a beach trip. It will scar me for months. I guess opposites attract??

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@prof side business for you! Sunscreen reseller!

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Thatā€™s me, sort of. My sunburns look like really nice suntans. However, they totally feel like sunburns :hot_face:.

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Iā€™m super sad because I just popped open my 3rd (and last) Anthelios from France. Then again, thatā€™s just a reason to go to France over Christmas, right?

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:100:

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I looked up the active ingredient. Just titanium dioxide. You can buy that in the US. Works roughly as well as zinc oxide.

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I had a Basal Cell Carcinoma removed when I was 28. I am so pale Iā€™m practically translucent and I also have an intense fear of premature aging and I have a mother who was a sun and tanning bed worshipper who - though she is a lovely woman in many ways - looks like a brown leather handbag. So yes, I reapply frequently especially on my face and especially after sweating, wiping sweat away, swimming, toweling off, etc. When I go in the winter months I donā€™t reapply nearly as often - maybe not at all if Iā€™m spending a lot of time indoors and not sweating or swimming.

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Not in the European versions. They use Bis-Ethylhexyloxyphenol Methoxyphenyl Triazine (Explained + Products) which is why we go out of our way to get it in Europe.

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I see. I thought I was looking at the European versionā€¦but I see now that it redirected me to a US site. :confused:

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Thatā€™s the US versionā€¦ the actives in the French version are totally different. The French version (Iā€™m not sure if your browser will load the French version or redirect you to the US page, but hereā€™s a linkā€¦ it should a .fr in it, not a .us https://www.laroche-posay.fr/gammes/solaires/anthelios/anthelios-uvmune-400-creme-solaire-fluide-invisible-spf50-/LRP_025.html#tab=ingrĆ©dients) contains BIS-ETHYLHEXYLOXYPHENOL METHOXYPHENYL TRIAZINE (aka Bemotrizinol, one of the most popular SPFs outside the US and Canada, which one cosmetics maker has been trying to get the FDA to approve for over 2 decades), ETHYLHEXYL TRIAZONE (SPF thatā€™s not available in the US at all), BUTYL METHOXYDIBENZOYLMETHANE (avobenzone, an old standby in the US for decades), DIETHYLAMINO HYDROXYBENZOYL HEXYL BENZOATE (DHHB, another new generation SPF thatā€™s very common in non-US sunscreens but not approved here), and TEREPHTHALYLIDENE DICAMPHOR SULFONIC ACID (Mexoryl 400). This last one is the holy grail ingredient that sets this product apartā€¦ thereā€™s a version of this thatā€™s the newest SPF approved in the US, but the approval was for an older, less effective version (Mexoryl SX) and itā€™s a very, very narrow approval that only allows it to be used in specific Lā€™Oreal facial sunscreen products. This 400 version is new, just released like 2 years ago.

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But how are those chemicals for the oceans? Iā€™m try to be concious about marine safe sunscreens since I often wear it in lakes, oceans and rivers.

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Always! Sunburns are no fun and Iā€™m not into the leather skin look either.

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