Well yes.
We simplified it by getting rid of all those unused vowels. You should really thank us.
Apparently itās an Acronym for āNot On Normal Communal Exerciseā - i.e. they are segregated from the other inmates due to the nature of their crimes and wanting to avoid them getting shanked.
I canāt figure out why YOU GUYS canāt spell it right?! I meanā¦pediatrician has no a before the e, so why would pedophile?
Meeting the characters is part of Disney, donāt worry Matt, keep enjoying those character meals. If Iām going somewhere without children I donāt read the kids section, so I hope they end up under restaurants with a mention in the kids section. For me Iād never do a character meal without children, unless that was the only way to get into a park early.
LOL @ryan1 thinks characters are silly but last time we talked about it the discussion degenerated so letās not talk about itā¦
This website suggests thatās probably not true, certainly Iāve never heard that explanation before. Most acronyms we use come from the US - FUBAR for example (at least I think thatās from the US). Iāve seen lots of words explained as being an acronym when actually they were in common use hundreds of years ago and evolved from other words. Annoyingly I canāt think of any now!
It does if you spell it properly.
But Pediatrician DOES have an a in front of it in the UKā¦ unless you were kidding, which I am not great at detecting via internet.
LOL I never figured why english words can have different spelling in UK vs US. Like āārealiseāā vs āārealizeāā and such. Even though we have very different accents, us French Canadians spell the same as French from Franceā¦
It was Urban Dictionary that claimed it was an acronym. The derivation would make some sense.
FUBAR is a WW2 acronym I believe for when things arenāt going well at allā¦
Yes Iād always understood it came from US troops to us in the war.
I wouldnāt call urban dictionary a reliable source but then I doubt thereās a person in the U.K. who knows why we use the word so itās hard to prove one way or the other. In the UK though I believe sex offenders are in with the general population unless they request segregation under rule 43 (Iām not sure this is still the case but used to be).
No idea if itās reliable - it was just the one with the definition that matched yours & had a believable origin claim. The regular dictionary site was just showing the normal word definition with nothing about prison slang. It does sound like the slang is a relatively recent derivationā¦
Itās certainly not been in use hundreds of years but I remember it from when I was a kid and Iām 44. I think rule 43 began before I was 10 so I guess the dates could fit.
Etymology of nonce (because I have nothing better to do with my time)
Several origins have been proposed; possibly derived from dialectal nonce , nonse (āstupid, worthless individualā), or Nance , nance (āeffeminate manā), from nancy or nancyboy . Another theory is that it is a shortening or dialectal pronunciation of " no(t) once ", a common defense of sexual predators in court of law.
Reading that etymology, it basically says: We have no idea where it came from!
Most etymology of slang is that way. Etymology is so interesting.
Thatās what the link I posted said basically, but in a lot more words!
Agreed.
My son tried to argue with me about why we should just spell all words phonetically. I told him that doing so would erase a bit of linguistic history.
Put simply, if your son came home from school or Uni and said he was being called this, particularly if he was homosexual, you would be extremely concerned for his well being and physical safety. It would probably be sufficient to have the āname callerā arrested for a āhate crimeā. It is a derogatory and very unpleasant word. I would be appalled if I heard someone use it and would step in, as I have now.
Very topical!
Although Iām not going to spell it out, but think upcoming court cases.