Any chance of Soarin’ dropping down to Tier 2 if TT reopens at a Tier 1? I can’t remember the old fast pass tiers for Epcot…
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Pretty sure Soarin’ was always Tier 1.
Okay thanks. I can’t remember when Remy opened…if it was open during fast passes, then there were (or at least there probably will be) four Tier 1 rides in Epcot then. Sigh…
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Highly unlikely. And for many guests, having Soarin’ move to Tier 2 would make Soarin’ harder to get.
If Soarin’ became Tier 2, most guests purchasing LL would pre-book Soarin’ so Soarin’ LL times would advance much faster pre “day of” and would also be much harder to get “day of”. For someone who arrives in the morning and opens up Tiers, the current situation is much more desirable than Soarin’ moving to Tier 2 (for at least the first few days of each guest’s trip). It would be like TSM at HS. [I suppose if a guest plans to arrive at EP late afternoon or evening as the guest’s first park of the day, then there may be an advantage to being able to pre-book Soarin’ as a Tier 2.].
Two things that some people don’t always think about when it comes to Tiers:
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If a ride becomes Tier 2 for you (not you specifically, but any “you”), then it is also Tier 2 for everyone who is eligible to book before you.
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If there are no Tiers for you, then there are no Tiers for anyone who is eligible to book before you so less top attractions will be available for you to book.
Often times, Tiering helps a guest in ways the guest does not realize.
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Looks better than TT 1&2, but still doesn’t come close to the original World of Motion.
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Soarin is very easy to get same day. You can probably get it in the morning even if you have 9am booked. It’s better as Tier 1. As tier 2, it would definitely be the top attraction and harder to get.
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Len’s review:
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I watched an on ride video, and felt almost exactly as Len did about the new version. Summary is that it is better than the previous version…but overall, still boring. (I feel safe saying that even not having actually ridden it myself since the ride mechanism hasn’t changed at all.) I won’t detail things here since don’t want spoilers for those who care. For those that don’t, Len’s review nails it well.
I still think this entire ride could have been rethemed into a space-themed travel experience, enclosing the outdoor section for a high speed indoor scene where you are travelling through a wormhole or something back to Earth. It would fit the themes of the other two rides in World Discovery then at least. But they wouldn’t have the GM sponsorship then, I suppose.
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I mean why couldn’t GM sponsor space cars? 
And I agree. There is one or two neat aspects of the new redo but otherwise it looks very similar to me. Nowhere near RSR quality. And RSR is one of my fave Disney rides ever.
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I watched the video and I think Len said it better than I could, although I didn’t feel as negatively about the tree section; it was kind of pretty and I just thought it was to show the fun of driving a new car. TT2 was a one and done for me, although I did ride it a second time because I was with someone who had never ridden it. I suspect this version might be the same. Maybe because the original World of Motion was such a favorite of mine that any version of TT will just remind me of what I’ve lost - same with Imagination.
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I loved everything about the imagination pavillion, even as a teenager. When I want that back, I go to Journey of Water because I feel like that is closest to it in spirit.
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I’m looking forward to the retheme. My kids LOVED TT 2.0. A Cars retheme or space retheme would have been fun (and I would have preferred that) but not necessary. It’s a really fun ride regardless of theming. It’s best enjoyed by 6-14 year olds, which is welcome for this park.
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Um. Okay.
Not.
(Diametric? 
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Are you 6-14 years old?
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I am at heart …
… thanks to my blood pressure meds.
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Closest in spirit … sure.
Closest in having to dry your kids off on a cooler than normal November day … not so much.
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I may have ridden a version when I was a kid— but I thought test track was like a simulation they tested a car in different situations to see if it’s ready to be sold/drive . So speed and the breaks and different weather conditions?
Did i make this up?
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That’s exactly correct. It was cool and educational originally.
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Oh that was the original?? Interesting I had a vague memory of it. Then I watched the ride video and was confused. I’ve been telling my kids about the old version then!
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I have been thinking more about TT 3.0, and really feel they could have done something awesome here, harkening back to the original concept for TT.
So, the initial scene in the new version is supposed to show how a car “sees” using Lidar. But I immediately had a couple issues with this.
First, how they rendered Lidar merely captured an artistic take on a “point cloud”, but really missed the mark on how Lidar actually works. And it could have been really awesome if they had done it right, with the point cloud changing as the vehicle moves through the scene to show the distances of the objects changing.
Second, the truth is, very few vehicles actually use Lidar right now, other than autonomous vehicles, because of cost and complexity. But this will change. How most vehicles “see” today relies more on cameras and ultrasonic sensors.
So, I think the ride could have shown the progression of technologies that are enabling vehicles to go from having a driver to fully autonomous by walking through a more accurate representation of each technology.
The scenes that come later (with the trees, etc) could then show real-world testing with an overlay of the ultrasonic and lidar technologies. The whole thing would be how real-world testing works, going from actual test tracks to real-world testing of autonomy.
Now THAT would be a really cool ride, with educational aspects, and cool effects… ultimately leading to that “open road” experience of the future.
As someone who works in this industry, I think this could have been really cool, and fit the “World Discovery” moniker nicely.
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