I did this more than once in April.
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I think the “rule” in question is simply that you can always have three non-expired LLMPs.
Separately, your non-expired set of three LLMPs must adhere to the park/tiering restrictions until you use one.
If you are taking advantage of the expiration grace period early in the day, it’s great if your first LLMP is the tier 1, as you can then book another tier 1 (or 2) when it expires, even if you haven’t gotten to the park or used one yet.
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My guess is that they tried to book an LLMP that they were not eligible for, i.e., a Tier 1 if the one that expired was Tier 2. It is confirmed that when an LLMP expires, tiers are NOT unlocked.
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This is really helpful. Thank you all.
I’m going to ask Amy to try this just to confirm it. And then I’ll update the code.
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Related question: What’s the minimum amount of time you’d need to save by getting a LL so that the time spent on your phone looking for and booking that LL, makes sense to you?
For reference, the current setting is 10 minutes of waiting in line.
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Also:
Let’s say I have a Tier 2 LLMP. I let it expire. Can I rebook an LLMP for that same attraction once it expires?
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No - the expiration of a LL counts as ticking the box for your once-per attraction limitation.
You can however, cancel the expired LL and then rebook the same attraction, if you cancel it within the period of time that it is still visible / cancellable. (I think tools like BG1 may be able to cancel long-expired LLs but an expired LL disappears in MDE within like 15 min? maybe longer.)
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This seems about right to me. Honestly I would probably use one that saved me 5 minutes if it was easily available.
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I feel like this might have been updated in the app at some point and expired ones show up longer than just 15 minutes in the official app? I could be wrong, I try to avoid using it on my park days unless I’m mobile ordering or fiddling with LLSPs. But you’re right about BG1- in BG1, I’ve cancelled an expired LLMP hours after the grace period was over and was able to rebook a new one for the same attraction. This wouldn’t be possible in the official app if they disappear, but I imagine a blue umbrella could fix it if needed.
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I think this is complicated. If each LL only saved me 10 mins in line per attraction, (putting money aside) I’d probably say the time spent on my phone during the day wasn’t worth it.
But if I’m already on my phone booking LLs for some attractions that save me 20+ minutes in line, then it’s not that much additional time on my phone to save an additional 10 minutes (or even 5 minutes) on other attractions.
For purposes of TPs, however, I think your setting of saving 10 mins of waiting in line is a good cutoff.
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If I am paying for LLs I have spent money to walk through that LL line. If it is the same amount of time, I am going to try to book the LL. Of course, I will use tools such as BG1 to overlap these LLs and reduce large gaps of times between my LLs. First timers, without those tools may prefer at least a 10 minute difference (posted not expected time).
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This is a common sentiment. I have seen people walk through the LL line (or Express Pass at UOR) at rope drop, when there is literally zero standby line. Or when you can clearly see that the queue is empty up to the merge point.
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I think I also would prefer the LL line even if it did not save me that much/any time because there will likely be fewer surprises in that line. Maybe I’m scarred from too much downtime, etc, but when that ride comes back up, I know that they will move the LL line faster. I feel like there’s too many variables in the standby line.
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I see people complain about being on their phone all the time booking LLs. Unless you are constantly refreshing and trying to get different times that make your plan “just perfect”, I don’t think it takes much longer then 60 seconds to book the next LL. Most of the time, it’s less than that.
My party and I tap in to the ride. As I’m walking the queue, I chose the next LL and book it. I know in my head what the next priority is for me.
Even if I have to set an alarm to pick up an LL on a drop, it’s still not that time consuming. I might stay stationary for the few minutes before the drop but when they happen, I pick up the ride and move on.
So to answer the question, the 60 seconds I spend on my phone is worth saving even 5 minutes. And, when I’m spending the money I am on LLs I want to get as many as possible.
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Even if I am not booking LLs, I am on my phone, looking at wait times in the park and deciding where I am going next, or optimizing my touring plan.
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