I watch TP videos and they emphasize rope drop and riding high demand rides this way, but in the touring plan app there is no way to indicate this in your plan. For example, I rope drop SDMT, but touring plan always starts me arriving at park at park open, walking to ride, waiting, etc. Anyone have a way to compensate for this?
Usually, I just go with it assuming I can evaluate later and the plan will catch up to actual times after a ride or three.
But, if I really wanted the plan to think I’m at 7DMT at RD (or before), I’d add a phony meal at a nearby QS location a bit before that first attraction. I’d put it in maybe 10 minutes before RD time and make it a 1 minute meal. (Leave flexibility set to the minimum of 10.)
(TIP: you can’t just add a Break in this scenario, because the system won’t let you add breaks before open hours. But you can add meals. Plus a meal places you at a particular location.)
Normally when creating plans I Optimize the whole plan a few times until I get it near to where I want, then I rely solely on Evaluate after that. (I usually have some items I don’t want TP to move around on me.) So, I’d get it all done, then add that phony meal and Evaluate again.
I just set up a simple test plan with 7DMT, PP and Pirates at RD. Here’s what it looks like without the pre-RD break:
Then I added an 8:50AM meal at Friar’s Nook (included a note to mysel say it was a test). After Evaluating you can see it shifted my 7DMT arrival back to an earlier time, but overall the waits didn’t change too much.
In general, I think while this tactic places you closer to the actual first arrival time, making the phony meal earlier than a few minutes doesn’t really change TPs estimates on wait. From the numbers, I suspect if you make it even earlier than that the system thinks you will just be standing around at 7DMT pre-RD waiting for it to open, then tacks that onto the expected wait when it does open(?)
To perhaps prove that assumption, I tried moving the phony meal back further to 8:40AM and by the 2nd ride I’m still at the same arrival time. So, while you can use this tactic, not sure it helps overall.
Thanks. Manipulate the he system like this leads me to the same conclusion, you eventually have to set it up the way you want it and then only use evaluate.
I put a pre-RD in as the first thing in the same location or substitute a short wait item and manually adjust the arrival and/or duration to approximate what I’m hoping is close to the correct amount of time. For example on the day I have a PPO GG reservation:
- Garden Grill Restaurant Arrival: 8:05 am, Wait 0, Duration 65, Free Time 0, Walk Time 10
Note: GG breakfast and RD Soarin’
Later in the week I want to RD Soarin’ but don’t have a GG reservation:
- The Seas Main Tank and Exhibits Arrival: 8:14 am, Wait 0, Duration 4, Free Time 0, Walk Time 23
Note: Adjust start of plan for Soarin’ RD, Est arrival 8:04, 6 min wait, 6 min ride, 2 add’l min walking*
*Right now these numbers are just a wild guess but I will make note of our actual times on Day 1 and if
it seems like this is significantly off I will adjust it then.
Makes sense. It seems like TP is shooting itself in the foot in that tour videos and tour plans don’t function the same. It would seem simple math to calculate a RD event into a schedule. “Do you intend to RD? If yes, then which ride?” The statistics for RDs are clearly available.
I was thinking of this earlier today but I wondered if it would be difficult to predict because people’s definition of “rope drop” vary wildly. For me, rope drop means being at the tapstiles an hour before opening and being literally one of the first 10-15 people in the park. For others, it may be arriving 10 minutes before opening and being 500 or more people deep in line. Seems like this would make the wait times vary wildly.
I have “tricked” my plans into showing more accurate rope drop times by indicating that I am using a fast pass on that ride when I’m really not. Touring plans does not limit you to 3 fast passes, so I use that one as a fake and then my 3 real ones.
I agree, but TP subscribers probably trend more with who you (and I) are than with last minute RDers.
I got a tip for another liner that I am using this time.
I plan to RD 7DMT at MK (actually PPO BOG) and FOP at AK. I am starting my TP at 15 minutes (for MK) and 30 minutes (for AK) after opening and leaving those two attractions off my plans. So they will be done and dusted before the plan officially starts.