Just got clarify what I’m saying. Now, if you want to be as efficient as possible in the RD crowd you will have to follow the second scenario I’ve laid out above. If you arrive later you lose any advantage as the lines will be longer (for those rides that open the queue up earlier). But that’s true for how things were before this was implemented, except more queues were available at RD. Now they will be limited. Some queues will not open till EE time.
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Ok.
I wasn’t speaking at all comparing the old RD to the new RD.
I was just speaking to why any wait before park hours doesn’t cost me park time/$.
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This would be the deciding factor for me. I don’t RD because of the mass of people and there is no way I would get there before most of the crowd due to my physical limitations. If people are taken back to the ride they want to be on, that would make it more doable for someone like me.
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This quote right here is the benefit of this change. Less chaos and a more peaceful atmosphere
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I see. Thinking about this a bit more, the School A vs School B debate isn’t new. What’s new is where you wait - in your ride’s SB line vs in the horde, and when you actually get in SB. What that might do to opening SB waits at 8:30 will be interesting to see.
One possibility now is that mid-to-late EE ppl will look at long lines for headliners already formed, balk, and go do something else. Or, they could say, look at that 7DMT line, already so long, we’d better get in now before it gets worse.
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One other downside is by lining up in the queue so early the CM’s will not be finished with safety checks and won’t be able to let guests know that a ride will have a delayed opening.
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But now you’ll have to get to MK even earlier. Or pivot to the rides that don’t open the queue 45 mins earlier than EE time.
But it’s only select rides.
And how much earlier you have to start that wait now. If RD is earlier, it’s earlier. RD is now not just a few mins before EE time, it’s 45 mins.
Didn’t even think of that aspect! I would be so upset if I woke up early to wait in a 45 min line to be one of the first people on an attraction to find out it can’t open on time!
If they opened the queue to all of the EE attractions it could spread the crowds around.
But moving the time earlier doesn’t actually save you anymore open hours park time then it did last week. It opens when it opens. If you’re 100 people back in line it still takes those 100 people the same amount of time to load. Ride time starts at early entry. Whether the line starts at 2 am, 6 am, or 7:45 am. Capacity is capacity. Load time is load time.
It will be interesting to see the impacts and how many people actually get there early. I bet there will be a ton of people that won’t even know of the new rules at the beginning of this roll out.
I just wish I could understand the logic behind this move…
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I don’t see your logic here. We would arrive at 7.30 and go straight to the rope for Tomorrowland. We were in effect in the queue for Space because that’s where everyone at the rope was going. So we were already waiting 45 mins. This is no different just because we’d wait at Space now instead of at the rope. But we were able to get 3-4 rides done in EE. People arriving closer to the start of EE got less done. No change there either.
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How do you decide what time to get to rope drop though? I thought people got to RD x amount of time before actual RD. If you decide, to be ahead of the RD crowd, you are going to have to be at rope drop, let’s say, 40 mins before the rope actually drops (which had been just 5 or 10 mins before EE time) that hasn’t changed, right? If RD is at 8:15, 7:45, 7:20 you would arrive x amount of mins early.
Or are you saying people won’t arrive earlier to be front of the pack for rope drop?
But you waited 45 mins for the rope to drop. If you didn’t and just got there around RD time would that effect your wait time in line? It should right?
The only way I see this working is if Disney doesn’t open the parking or taps any earlier. If they open it earlier to facilitate the new, earlier RD, then people will get there earlier. Crowds build. The only way to actually save time in line at the start of EE is to be at the front of an attraction queue line at the start of EE.
I’m saying that everyone knows you need to be there at least 45 mins before the park officially opens for EE to get a headliner with a short wait. And if they care about that, they are already doing it. Nobody is strolling in at 8.25 for 8.30 EE thinking they will be able to walk on 7DMT or Space. They know they’ll have a long wait, because buses jam packed full of people have been arriving since 7.30am and there’s no way to get ahead of that crowd.
I don’t see them saying you can get through the taps earlier. EE starts at the same time as it did, and you’ll get in at the same time. As far as I can see.
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If they don’t it will be a MAD house at the taps. There are only so many lanes to get into the park.
What is the rule for taps opening before EE? Is it an hour? Honestly IDK. But it opens early enough to get people in and line up before the ropes drop (providing they arrive x amount of time before RD and the taps are open x amount of time before RD). That has to be maintained or people will be angry.
That knowledge is going to change though. You will have to be earlier.
It’s already a madhouse at the taps. They were opening at 7.45 for 8.30 EE on that trip though it was nearly 3 years ago now.
I disagree that you will have to be earlier. You were already lining up for the big rides. You just weren’t actually at the ride. But basically everybody was going to 7DMT or Space. There’s Tron now of course which still wasn’t finished on our last trip.
ETA and there will be no point getting there earlier if the taps don’t open earlier, buses wont get there earlier and the car park won’t be open.
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If this is still true, I see your point.
Lining up for front of pack at RD is an incentive. Not sure how much it will be. Time will tell.
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Linking this video excerpt from Len which was helpful to me in better understanding the fundamentals of EE strats:
Summarizing:
- With EE, you want to get in 1-2 rides with 0 minute waits
- Either by being front of RD pack and doing a headliner,
- or, if you’re mid RD pack, do a secondary ride or 2 while everyone else is at the headliner.
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Anyone know if they are still doing this daily?
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Doing what? The updated early entry process?
Yes, they are still doing it.
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