Epcot Touring Plans Help

We have an upcoming week-long trip in early March and I have been trying to use TouringPlans to create a plan for Epcot. We will have two little girls (5 and 7) with us and our priorities will be Frozen and Remy’s. We had planned on getting Lightning Lane Multi-Pass to help avoid one of these two lines (probably Remy since we will be entering through the main entrance). We had also planned to get a early pass for Spaceship Earth, using it, and getting a new pass for Soarin’ after we tap in. Our other pass would be used probably for Living with the Land. I have been trying to fit this into TouringPlans without a lot of success. I have two questions for Touring Plan pros:

  1. Is there any way to factor in the time we would save by using the ability to get a LL for Soarin’ after tapping in for Spaceship Earth?
  2. Can you input this into TouringPlans?
  3. Would you use the Lightning Lane for Remy or Frozen?

Any help would be appeciated.

We went last March and from the time we scanned in for our Soarin’ LL to the time we were boarded on the ride was 20 min. Add another 5-7 minutes for ride time.

If the plan isn’t cooperating you could add a meal at garden grill for the time you plan to be there and just make it 30 min to be conservative.

Since y’all are starting at the front of the park I think I’d choose Frozen for a LL pick and then try for a Remy one at a drop time.

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Are you on-site so would have the benefit of Early Entry? This would impact my recommendations.

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As @davej notes, this depends on whether you’ll be able to benefit from EE.

If yes (and you are coming in from the front of the park), I would definitely recommend getting your Tier 1 LL for Remy, and rope dropping Frozen. Rope dropping Remy is great if you’re coming in through IG, but from the front of the park it’s not worth it. For Frozen, you’ll line up in a fairly relaxed/spread out location in the middle of the park near the new Walt statue. Once the rope is released, you walk straight up to the World Showcase lagoon, and turn left towards Mexico and into Norway. As long as you walk with purpose (no need to compete with speed walkers hustling to the front), you should be able to get on to the ride with a very short wait and be off again before EE is over.

If you are planning to ride GotG using the VQ (use BG1 to get this), I would advise heading there next as it’s usually a walk on during EE or right at park open (whereas later in the day the VQ will have a 30-60 min wait for most of the rest of the day). You could then tap into anything nearby (SE or MS, for example) to unlock your LL tiers, and grab your next LL for Soarin. OR, if you want to ride Frozen twice, there might even still be LLs avilable early in the day. Soarin is usually available for several hours after park open, so you could make that your next LL selection.

If you don’t intend to ride GotG or do not want to walk back into Future World, you could also book Remy as your first LL, as early as possible in the day, and head from Frozen to France (probably via Canada and UK, to tap in by 10am latest to unlock your LL tiers and make your next booking). Then explore World Showcase in the morning while it’s nice and calm, and ride anything you want to ride in Future World in the afternoon grabbing LL with tap-and-go (most of the remaining LLs are not very competitive).

I did a slightly more ambitious version of this RD plan during a solo trip two weeks ago (read here: https://forum.touringplans.com/t/first-solo-trip-oct-2024/102100/23) I’ve also successfully rope dropped Frozen with the whole family (both with stroller and without) - while you’ll have plenty of people around you, in my experience it’s one of the less stressful rope drop destinations in WDW.

You can, but it’s not essential. You can now tell the TP tool which LLs you are planning to use when, but it’s a lot more fiddly than it was before. I still make TPs mainly cause I like looking at my plan on the little map at the bottom, and to get an approximate idea of overall timing including walking distances - but I usually deviate from my plan at some point before noon because you can’t necessarily predict the exact availability of LL after you initial selection of 3/rides may be down/etc. At Epcot, I find once you’ve knocked out/have a plan pinned down for Frozen, Remy and Soarin, you can really move at a relaxed pace. Even GotG you can easily schedule by purchasing LLSP (instead of VQ) if you prefer doing that.

If you are onsite you can book 7 days in advance - you can check the TP LL availability table (Lightning Lane at Disney World) on the morning you book to get an approximate idea of what will be available.

If you are not onsite or don’t intend to use EE, this plan would not work the same way - let us know, and have a great trip!

The way I’ve been doing it is optimizing / evaluating without any LLMP, seeing what the estimated wait times are, and then putting in LLMP times for the ideal scenario. So if you have SE for 9-10, also put Soarin for 10-11 (it will let you overlap too). It lets you see the anticipated time savings as well.

I have not gone to Thrill Data to see how likely it is that I would be able to pick up the additional LL - that might be a good step. Refresh helps too.

Thanks a bunch. Your advice has been terrific,

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We will be. We will have either 8 or 11 days prior to our Epcot day to select Lighting Lanes

Since you have EE, I would EE RD Frozen and get a LLMP for Remy. I would get the Remy LL for early afternoon.

If you plan to do GotG, I would get as early a BG as possible and head there after Frozen.

After GotG, I’d then tap into LL for SE and book LL for Soarin’.

Then I’d spend the rest of the morning meeting characters and riding Soarin’, Nemo (if on your list) and Figment (if on your list). My kids (now ages 7 and 9) really enjoy the Seas Pavilion and the Imagination Pavilion. I really don’t like the current iteration of the Figment ride, but my kids like it and they have fun exploring the Imagination area.

Then I would head to the Mexico Pavilion area to meet Donald Duck and ride Three Caballeros. Then head over to Remy.

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